Wuhan Flu Truth and Big Brother Narratives

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Many people are easily panicked, because they actually believe the media, and still trust the Gubbumint
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Robinson wrote:Many people are easily panicked, because they actually believe the media, and still trust the Gubbumint
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Pyrrho wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:45 am "17 days" is an SC thing that derives from the time Claus Larsen discovered that 17 days had elapsed between the time a forum software update was released and the time when Skeptica applied the update. "17 days!!" he yelped.

From the River etc.:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5366&p=116408&hilit=17+days#p116408

Wow...March 16, 2022 will be the 17th anniversary of 17 days. Cools.

Regarding "stay home", I'd have to work remotely over my 56k dialup modem.
Ah, memories. Skeptics were making memes before it was a social media thing. :P
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Kaaba is closed:

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Details, details. Jeebus can change these things at will without bothering to esplainify it to the likes of us. :) This, and other things reported in the Babble makes him a cunt.
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Again, details details.

It's all horseshit. Enough to make a cat laugh to quote Hitchens.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:42 pm Is the panic buying localized somewhere else? Total made up shit?
Or is it panic everywhere except for my own unusually stoic and fatalistic neighborhood? :lmao:
No, it's localised but unquestionably real.

Toilet paper is the thing in NZ & Aussie - shelves are emptied as fast as they can re-stock them.

And it only causes diarrhoea in about 1% of cases.
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Witness wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:38 pm Kaaba is closed:
They're all doomed, then.

Nothing in the Quran about closing holy sites because of disease. Allah is not fucking happy at the heretics worried about disease.

All those virgins going to waste.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:42 pm Happened to be in the Walgreens down the street from me this morning and just for giggles I looked for hand sanitizer as well as what I was there for. Yes they had some on hand. Not a huge amount but a normal amount.

Purell brand 2 oz (pocket size) at $1.99 full price or 2 for $3.00 with your Walgreens discount card.
Also an assortment of larger size options including Walgreens generic.

More than I paid per unit (Dial brand), but no signs of panic buying or pricing.

Is the panic buying localized somewhere else? Total made up shit?
Or is it panic everywhere except for my own unusually stoic and fatalistic neighborhood? :lmao:
Here in Japan the supermarkets seem to be having some trouble keeping certain items in stock. In some cases I see whole aisles of empty shelves. Masks in particular are hard to come by unless you are willing to pay a steep markup to a profiteer. They've also been out of kleenex and TP. I don't really know about hand sanitizer though. Mostly my wife is the one who buys that sort of thing, and usually via the internet lately.
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This artificial panic is the media trying to use a situation to fuck over the world, to ensure Trump is blamed
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They also just blatantly lie about the "death rate", in which they use the people tested as the number to compare deaths to.

It's why they didn't just test everyone aboard the ships, then report the numbers.

34000 people

21 infected (19 crew, 2 male passengers)

no deaths


That won't scare anyone

The fact that two men on the ship became ill, but neither of their wives did, even when they were in the same cabin, and didn't even know it was some new virus, tells a lot. Except they don't report that story.

Fake news, it's a killer
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What they do report, is "out of the 60 people who got the virus 12 died." Death rate of 2%

Except they don't mention the 1000 people who also had the virus, and didn't even get sick, much less die.

The "60 people" is the number tested, not the number infected
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robinson wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:34 am They also just blatantly lie about the "death rate", in which they use the people tested as the number to compare deaths to.

It's why they didn't just test everyone aboard the ships, then report the numbers.

34000 people

21 infected (19 crew, 2 male passengers)

no deaths


That won't scare anyone

The fact that two men on the ship became ill, but neither of their wives did, even when they were in the same cabin, and didn't even know it was some new virus, tells a lot. Except they don't report that story.

Fake news, it's a killer
Which ship are you talking about? I don't think there's a ship in the world that can carry 34000 people. :notsure:
3400 maybe?
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Grand Princess

3400 crew and guests

Obviously a typo


the point still stands
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I don't expect anyone to get this point.

Because it requires thinking, and a rational mind.


Just kidding. That's not the reason people can't get it
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Damn it

I think the Grand Princess is 2500

The Diamond Princess was 34000
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robinson wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:15 am I don't expect anyone to get this point.

Because it requires thinking, and a rational mind.
I get it, and just typed a long post at TOP explaining that very point. I also whacked some people the other day for abusing Trump for calling WHO liars for perpetuating the myth that it has a 3.4% fatality rate. It does not.
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'Gratitude education': Wuhan boss faces backlash over calls to thank leaders

City’s top official scorned for saying citizens should thank President Xi and communist party for coronavirus management

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Wuhan’s top party official has come under fire after saying the government would implement “gratitude education” so citizens can properly thank the Chinese Communist party for its efforts fighting the coronavirus outbreak.

In comments published on Saturday, Wuhan party secretary Wang Zhonglin said: “The people of Wuhan are heroic people who understand gratitude,” echoing previous comments by Chinese leader Xi Jinping.

“[We] must through various channels carry out gratitude education among the citizens of the whole city as well as cadres so that they thank the general secretary [Xi Jinping], thank the communist party, listen to the party’s words, follow the party’s way, and create strong positive energy,” said Wang, who was sent to Wuhan in February to replace the former party secretary, amid rising public anger over local authorities’ handling of the crisis.

Wang’s statement was met with such scorn that the party affiliated paper that published his comments, the Changjiang Daily, appeared to remove the original article. Chinese media has reportedly been instructed not to publish the article, publish commentaries or mention the incident in anyway.

According to a translation from China Media Project, an internal directive said the report had invited “raging public opinion” on a level similar to that following “the death of a certain doctor,” a reference to whistleblower ophthalmologist, Li Wenliang, who died from Covid-19 earlier this month.

“This matter fully shows that with Wuhan now having been shut down for more than 40 days, the lives of the ordinary people have been affected to such an extent that there is resentment and anger, and all reports must consider the feelings of the people of Wuhan,” it said.

The incident is an example of how efforts by authorities to “guide public opinion” have backfired in the face of the coronavirus crisis, which emerged in Wuhan and has now claimed the lives of more than 3,000 people in China – deaths that many blame on the authorities’ sluggishness in dealing with the virus when it was first detected in December.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... nk-leaders

Ungrateful rabble! :x
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IT'S IN YOUR HOME STATE

3 confirmed cases in Cuyahoga County.

https://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/202 ... -says.html
Three Ohioans have tested positive for the new coronavirus, Gov. Mike DeWine announced Monday afternoon.

The governor, speaking at a Statehouse news conference, said all three are from Cuyahoga County. They are all in their mid-50s. The three are at home and in contact with their doctors. All have been cooperative.

Two are a married couple, a man and woman, who recently returned from a cruise on the Nile in Africa, DeWine said.
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USA! USA! USA!

This is why Trump's making light of it - he's not about get beaten by those fuckin' Commies in China, or the fags in Europe.

America must be first!
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Word here in Japan is that you just can't get tested unless you have very severe symptoms. If you have mild or moderate cold or flu symptoms the advice is to just stay home and self quarantine. Don't go to a local doctor. In my family we've all had colds as recently as a couple weeks ago and while I imagine it was just a garden variety cold I don't really know. We can't just go to get tested to find out, and maybe it's better anyway just not knowing. Don't make the wave function collapse.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:42 amDon't make the wave function collapse.
Schrödinger's patient: neither dead nor alive. :lmao:
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I think I also heard something about there being two different strains of the virus now, meaning that you can get it twice.
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The latest WHO sitrep shows 259 new confirmed cases in the US. Also 8 new deaths.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source ... 55e904fb_2

https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease ... on-reports
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Anaxagoras wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:49 am I think I also heard something about there being two different strains of the virus now, meaning that you can get it twice.
Read about that too.

Most (all?) viruses mutate constantly. Here is an interactive timeline/map (slightly messy) following the dispersion of the various strains.
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Witness wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:47 am
Anaxagoras wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:49 am I think I also heard something about there being two different strains of the virus now, meaning that you can get it twice.
Read about that too.

Most (all?) viruses mutate constantly. Here is an interactive timeline/map (slightly messy) following the dispersion of the various strains.
So, probably more than 2, I suppose. Do we know if having been infected with one and having recovered confers immunity to any of the other strains? :notsure:
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I am not sure anyone knows the answer to that.

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Catered lunches have been banned at our office.

Meanwhile, in Italy, they're talking about "wartime triage" of afflicted patients because of the burgeoning number of cases.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-11/ita ... an-health/
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Re. Italy:
Coronavirus, negozi e locali chiusi in tutta Italia fino al 25 marzo. Garantiti servizi essenziali, alimentari e farmacie. Possibili riduzioni trasporti. Conte: "Torneremo ad abbracciarci"
https://www.repubblica.it/politica/2020 ... 250988471/

"Coronavirus, shops and restaurants closed throughout Italy until March 25. Guaranteed essential services, food and pharmacies. Possible transport reductions. Conte: "We will come back to embrace each other".

Restaurants closed – what will tourists do? Flee propagating the virus?
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Pyrrho wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:05 am Meanwhile, in Italy, they're talking about "wartime triage" of afflicted patients because of the burgeoning number of cases.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-11/ita ... an-health/
They were warned and didn't listen.

The only question is how many other countries will heed the warnings?
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Jeezus! The range of comments!!!

Bring on the extinction level event.

Fuck.
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At a meeting yesterday to hear from executives about the company's procedures about this thing...our resident "class clown" started pretending to cough and said, while fanning his face, "Whew it's hot in here! Anybody else feeling hot? Ha ha ha."

I reflexively said, "What's funny?"
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If you don't get infected it's because your faith was strong and the power of Jesus protected you. If you do get infected it's because your faith wasn't strong enough so Jesus didn't protect you.
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Pyrrho wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:59 am At a meeting yesterday to hear from executives about the company's procedures about this thing...our resident "class clown" started pretending to cough and said, while fanning his face, "Whew it's hot in here! Anybody else feeling hot? Ha ha ha."

I reflexively said, "What's funny?"
You kind of hope they're the people who get the turbocharged dose.
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America is fucked. That kind of wilful ignorance is nuts.

I vote those churches start using communal communion cups to prove their defiance and devoutness.