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Most depressing song ever

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Nominations here. Perhaps poll to come, if someone feels industrious enough.
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Fleetwood Mac's "Man of the World".
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Fleetwood Mac's "Why".

Sensing a theme here :)
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Alan Parsons Project, "Since The Last Goodbye"

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Harry Chapin's Cat's In the Cradle (live version with Harry introducing it in his terrific, humble way -- he was a great songwriter and overall nice guy):

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It would be, but then I just think of Homer Simpson sobbing the lyrics to "Yes, we have no bananas" right afterwards.
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An interesting question though--shall we disqualify the bittersweet? Songs that have really depressing lyrics but don't leave you depressed because of the arrangement.

"Fire and Rain" comes to mind as an example.
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gnome wrote:It would be, but then I just think of Homer Simpson sobbing the lyrics to "Yes, we have no bananas" right afterwards.
:D

Well, if you were already very familiar with the song and its meaning before The Simpsons, I would think the feelings it evoked before you saw that episode would persist. They do for me, even though I laughed like hell at that moment. I can't think of or hear the song without getting a lump in my throat. It's got a really universal message that cuts right to the bone for all sons and fathers. I wouldn't call it bittersweet. It's scary (as Harry says) and depressing, you know, 'cause it's true for so many of us. That's exactly what my relationship with my dad was like, from both perspectives.

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gnome wrote:An interesting question though--shall we disqualify the bittersweet? Songs that have really depressing lyrics but don't leave you depressed because of the arrangement.

"Fire and Rain" comes to mind as an example.
Are you asking, "Should we consider only the music and the overall tone of it, rather than taking into account the lyrics and what they mean?"

If so, it's a very different question. Personally, I can't divorce the lyrics from the song, provided I can understand them.

CH

EDIT: Actually, that brings up an interesting perspective. Some songs' lyrics don't match the tone evoked by the melody and harmony at all. Steely Dan's music is famous for this. They can put really sinister tales of depravity and debauchery together with really snappy, cool, fun music, and casual fans don't even notice. If you listen to the lyrics, however, their stories are sometimes about sick, twisted behavior, like adults seducing or molesting young teenagers after introducing them to porn, e.g., ("Everyone's Gone to the Movies" -- this was in 1975, long before the internet did that).
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I think I'm looking for the overall experience of the song and the mood it generates.

If it's creepy or depressing on close examination, but has an upbeat musical tone, perhaps not a contender.

Hell, I dunno. Forget deciding which is the worst, and just drop in ones that seem relevant.

Someone will announce a "win" at some point.
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I announce a win.
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Can someone find me an animated GIF of the knight smacking someone with a rubber chicken?
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Cool Hand wrote:
gnome wrote:It would be, but then I just think of Homer Simpson sobbing the lyrics to "Yes, we have no bananas" right afterwards.
:D

Well, if you were already very familiar with the song and its meaning before The Simpsons, I would think the feelings it evoked before you saw that episode would persist. They do for me, even though I laughed like hell at that moment. I can't think of or hear the song without getting a lump in my throat. It's got a really universal message that cuts right to the bone for all sons and fathers. I wouldn't call it bittersweet. It's scary (as Harry says) and depressing, you know, 'cause it's true for so many of us. That's exactly what my relationship with my dad was like, from both perspectives.

CH
I can only partly identify with it, having received a stepson half-grown. But enough that I understand the mood it can generate, Homer notwithstanding.
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You heard about the ram who committed suicide?
He'd just heard the song "There will never be another ewe."
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gnome wrote: I can only partly identify with it, having received a stepson half-grown. But enough that I understand the mood it can generate, Homer notwithstanding.
You're a son yourself, no? There's a message on both sides of the fence, despite Harry's and his wife's writing it around the time their son was born. I'm not a father, but I am a son.

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Cool Hand wrote:
gnome wrote: I can only partly identify with it, having received a stepson half-grown. But enough that I understand the mood it can generate, Homer notwithstanding.
You're a son yourself, no? There's a message on both sides of the fence, despite Harry's and his wife's writing it around the time their son was born. I'm not a father, but I am a son.

CH
Once in a while I see that side of it, considering myself as a grown son... but I don't know what to say, it just doesn't quite hit me personally. There is surely a story that describes me and my father, this one just isn't it.
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Good call on Steely Dan CH.

A world become one
of salads and sun
Only a fool would say that
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Teddy Bear by Red Sovine

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Shit, nearly anything by Red Sovine
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Hootie and the Blowfish - Not Even the Trees


I'm a stranger in my home
Sing it Hootie.
You see I'm tired of feeling this pain
I'm tired of living my own little lie
You know it, Mr. Blowfish.
I lay down with memories of you keep that keep me going on, going on
Bring on home now.
Right now I just can't see
'Cause i'm feeling weak
And my sould begins to bleed
And no one is listening to me, not even the trees
Fucking trees. :cry:
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Someone left the cake out in the rain...
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I woke up this mornin' and all my shrimps was dead and gone...
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Acting upon information received
Rosie had everything planned
Stood in the garden with shotgun in hand
What a woman

Whilst entertaining the headlines next day
Rosie would not be released
If it was found that her man was deceased
Silly woman

Oh but Rosie, a girl with a strange kind of humor
Stupidly took in a rumor
Making her think that she'd lost
Double-crossed by a man who was dear

Stood in the garden and shaking her head
Rosie could not understand
Wiping her eyes with the back of her hand
Sad, sad woman

Oh but Rosie, how could a few words have made her
Certain that he had betrayed her
Making her think that she'd lost
Double-crossed by a man who was dear
Very near to her

Row upon row of angel hair
Rosie had everything planned
Sure that the people would not understand
Sad, sad woman
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Seven Spanish Angels by Willie Nelson and Ray Charles

He looked down into her blue eyes, and said
"Say a prayer for me". She
Threw her arms around him, whispered
"God will keep us free".
They could hear the riders comin', He said
"This is my last fight...If they
Take me back to Texas, they won't
Take me back a-live.

There were seven Spanish angels, at the
Altar of the sun.
They were prayin' for the lovers, in the
Valley of the gun.
When the battle stopped and the smoke cleared,
There was thunder from the throne,
And seven spanish angels, took a-nother
Angel home.

She reached down and picked the gun up,
That lay smokin in his hand.
She said, "Father please forgive me;
I can't make it without my man."
And she knew the gun was empty,
And she knew she couldn't win,
But her final prayer was answered
When the rifles fired again.

There were seven Spanish angels, at the
Altar of the sun.
They were prayin' for the lovers, in the
Valley of the gun.
When the battle stopped and the smoke cleared,
There was thunder from the throne,
And seven spanish angels, took a-nother
Angel home.
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There is only one.

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asthmatic camel wrote:There is only one.

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The B side to that single was "Put the Bone In." I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP ( I used to own the 45 as a kid, and yes, "Seasons" is a terribly depressing song).

Put the bone in
She yelled at the store
'Cause my doggie's been hit by a car
And I do want to bring him home something
Put the bone in
She yelled out once more
Because the meat from the pork is so sweet
And the bone from the pork give to me
Put the bone in she begged him
As she paced across the floor
Put the bone in she yelled out once more

Put the bone in
She yelled at the store
Cause my doggie's been hit by a car
And I do want to bring him home something
Put the bone in
She yelled out once more ...

CH
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What about songs that depress you not for the lyrics, but because some no-talent pop star made a fortune off it?
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What about vexing music?

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I love Erik Satie. Used to love playing his pieces as a young piano student. Weird, but beautiful.

CH
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There's a variation in the style of a Gymnopaedie on my current CD.
Who else in 1923 could publish "Three pieces in the form of a pear", or a work called "Dehydrated Embryos"? He totally went forward in time and ripped off Alice Cooper...
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DrMatt wrote:There's a variation in the style of a Gymnopaedie on my current CD.
Who else in 1923 could publish "Three pieces in the form of a pear", or a work called "Dehydrated Embryos"? He totally went forward in time and ripped off Alice Cooper...
:D
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Hey, we never announced a winner.

Could open it up to new contenders while we're at it.
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An oddball contender from a "filk" singer, but it does get to me at least:

Cecilia Eng: "Absent Hosts"


Third planet, yellow star
Tell us where your children are
We have come here from afar
To answer their invitation

Long your message kept its pace
Drifting on through endless space
Seeking for another race
'Til at last it found us

Far your children's plea was cast
Since its launch, much time has passed
Here its trail led us at last
Tell us where to find them

Can we find them far away?
Did some leave before the day
That death came to this place to stay?
Tell us where to find them

Dead planet, yellow star
Was it just another war?
Did your children die before
We found their invitation?

From dust we come, to dust retire
Life too soon will oft expire
Poison winds and deadly fire
Are all they've left to greet us

Third planet, yellow star
Tell us where your children are
We have come here from afar
To answer their invitation
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There are some excellent nominations so far.

Let me toss three more on the pile.

Bob Dylan - Knocking on Heaven's Door (with Sheryl Crow) (Live)


Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - Mary Jane's Last Dance
Hollywood Bowl 9/25/2017 (Tom's last concert ever)


Dixie Chicks - Travelin' Soldier (Live)


That last one hits me hard. And that's all I'll say about it.
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Three more nominations:

Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show - Sylvia's Mother


Sarah McLachlan - I Will Remember You (Afterglow Live)


One Tin Soldier - Live! / The Original Caste
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What's more depressing is realizing that some of the people who posted in this thread are no longer with us.

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And how can anyone forget: "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" - Gordon Lightfoot
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Jimmy Dean - Big Bad John [Live]
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sadly that bit of weeny caption superimposed at the end of the last was something some censor somewhere added. It is not in any of the prints or the Japanese Original play. He gets away with it of course over "The Varsity Drag" from much earlier in the film with his child saying his first words: "I'm Jack! I'm Jack! I'm Jack" . . . or is it his child? Then the credits role.

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