American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

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While trying to remember the name of that great movie for which I gave for a great review that was greatly received on this great forum, I remembered that it starred Tom Hanks. So I imdb'd Tom Hanks and see that he has announced the production of American Gods.

For those of you that have not read the book
Wiki wrote:American Gods is a Hugo and Nebula Award-winning[1] novel by Neil Gaiman. The novel is a blend of Americana, fantasy, and various strands of ancient and modern mythology, all centring on the mysterious and taciturn Shadow. It is Gaiman's fourth prose novel, preceded by Good Omens (a collaboration with Terry Pratchett), Neverwhere, and Stardust. Several of the themes touched upon in the book were previously glimpsed in The Sandman graphic novels.


Back Flap
HarperTorch wrote:Shadow is a man with a past. But now he wants nothing more than to live a quiet life with his wife and stay out of trouble. Until he learns that she's been killed in a terrible accident. Flying home for the funeral, as a violent storm rocks the plane, he is greeted by a strange man in the seat next to him. The man calls himself Mr. Wednesday, and he knows more about Shadow than is possible. He warns Shadow that a far bigger storm is coming. And from that moment on, nothing will ever be the same.
Not a great back flap.

Summary:
The central premise of the novel is that gods and mythological creatures exist because people believe in them (a form of thoughtform). Immigrants to the United States brought with them dwarves, elves, leprechauns, and other spirits and gods. However, the power of these mythological beings has diminished as people's beliefs wane. New gods have arisen, reflecting America's obsessions with media, celebrity, technology, and drugs, among others.
The Tobacco God is awesome.

Now I know for certifiable certitude that Naryl has read this.

I guess a good conversational description of the theme is that real flesh and blood gods are instantiated through popular cultural obsessions. There is a god of Fashion, because people obsess over it. Their power is derived through the extent of that obsession. The more people that obsess, the more power Fashion has.

I have not read all of Neil Gaiman works, and that is a good thing. I savor his writing so I have something to live for.
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Rob Lister wrote:While trying to remember the name of that great movie for which I gave for a great review that was greatly received on this great forum, I remembered that it starred Tom Hanks.
Given my assessment of your viewing habits it was probably this one

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BM ... 4,317_.jpg
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ha ha ed fail
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ha ha indeed.
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Hmmm would Hanks play Odin? I did so like that book.
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Cloverlief wrote:Hmmm would Hanks play Odin? I did so like that book.
he might be just producing it. but if he does play a part, then yea, I'm guessing Odin. Certainly not Shadow.

I pictured Oden as short and stocky.
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Rob Lister wrote:
Cloverlief wrote:Hmmm would Hanks play Odin? I did so like that book.
he might be just producing it. but if he does play a part, then yea, I'm guessing Odin. Certainly not Shadow.

I pictured Oden as short and stocky.
Hmmm, I pictured him rather as Anthony Hopkin's portrayed him in Thor. Except a little more tricksey.
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I would be up to see this.

I have read the book....I read a bit of his stuff.
Neverwhere is also a worthy read.

Can't see Hanks as Odin, though. Maybe Loki....


Jim Beaver would be a good Odin....Bobby Singer in Supernatural.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0064769/

Too bad Micheal Clarke Duncan died...woulda made a decent Shadow.
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On Tuesday, cable and satellite network Starz announced that it was moving ahead with a series adaptation of Neil Gaiman's 2001 novel American Gods.

The show will be written and produced by Bryan Fuller and Michael Green. Fuller has worked on shows such as Hannibal, Pushing Daisies, and Heroes, and Green is known for his work on The River and Heroes. Gaiman will be an executive producer for the show.

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According to Variety, production of the show will begin as soon as a leading man is found to play Shadow. FremantleMedia North America is the company in charge of production, and it will distribute the series outside of Starz's TV and subscription video on demand (SOVD) rights.
So a series instead of a movie. Much more betterestlyer.

What does Neil have to say about that?
I am thrilled, ‎scared, delighted, nervous and a ball of glorious anticipation. The team that is going to bring the world of ‘American Gods’ to the screen has been assembled like the master criminals in a caper movie: I’m relieved and confident that my baby is in good hands. Now we finally move to the exciting business that fans have been doing for the last dozen years: casting our Shadow, our Wednesday, our Laura.
http://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2 ... -on-starz/

So who to play Shadow?

Read the AG wiki to get a better cult view.
http://americangods.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow
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Ian McShane for Odin or bust.
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Production begins.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1898069/epi ... t_eps_sn_1
Grammatron wrote:Ian McShane for Odin or bust.
How'd you do that?

Yes, Ian for Mr. Wednesday.
https://i.imgur.com/22GA2vz.jpg


Ricky Whittle for Shadow.
https://i.imgur.com/75P2t0U.jpg

Emily Browning for Laura Moon.
https://i.imgur.com/m2wPyBO.jpg
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Don't know about the Shadow casting, but I'm not sure who would play him well.
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Premiers April 30th.
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Rob Lister wrote:
Summary:
The central premise of the novel is that gods and mythological creatures exist because people believe in them (a form of thoughtform). Immigrants to the United States brought with them dwarves, elves, leprechauns, and other spirits and gods. However, the power of these mythological beings has diminished as people's beliefs wane. New gods have arisen, reflecting America's obsessions with media, celebrity, technology, and drugs, among others.
The idea isn't new and is the central theme of Jean Ray's Malpertuis. (Old French meaning "bad house".)

English translation:

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https://www.atlaspress.co.uk/index.cgi? ... c&number=5

Summary: The Greek gods, having lost their powers for lack of believers, are brought back to the Malpertuis house, somewhere in Belgium (presumably Ray's childhood house in the Ham in Ghent). Strange & terrible things ensue, the thinly disguised inhabitants acting according to their mythological persona.

But of course it's not about "new gods" – different story.
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It's more of an immigration allegory than a mythical showdown. IMO
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And the trailer ...
[youtube][/youtube]
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Anyone see the season premiere?

Favorable review
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/tele ... iewed.html

Metacritic:
http://www.metacritic.com/tv/american-gods
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Rob Lister wrote:
Cloverlief wrote:Hmmm would Hanks play Odin? I did so like that book.
he might be just producing it. but if he does play a part, then yea, I'm guessing Odin. Certainly not Shadow.

I pictured Oden as short and stocky.
Typical microaggression.
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Rob Lister wrote:.

I guess a good conversational description of the theme is that real flesh and blood gods are instantiated through popular cultural obsessions. There is a god of Fashion, because people obsess over it. Their power is derived through the extent of that obsession. The more people that obsess, the more power Fashion has.
This is clearly wrong courtesy of the Sniff Test (tm). As such the central pemise is flawed and therefore the whole thing is unwatchable.

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I savor his writing so I have something to live for.
I thought that that was my writing. :x
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So I watched the premiere.

Looks interesting, but weird. In a good way.
Spoiler:
Some old Jewish guy named Wednesday is one of the Gods. And some vaguely Hispanic guy who says he's a leprechaun. Also a sexy black woman who draws power (and youth) by shrinking old white guys and shoving them up her pussy. And an annoying young white hacker dude.
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Valhalla anew, doesn't that sound swell?
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Anaxagoras wrote:Valhalla anew, doesn't that sound swell?

The show certainly is getting interesting. A bit weird sometimes, but interesting
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A zombie and a leprechaun trading insults. I love it.

eta: oooh, throw in a gay djinn!
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It was weird seeing the Leprechaun not being a dick.

Also, next week is the "Season Finale". Are they kidding me? Only 8 Epsisodes? What the fuck is this, Britain?
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It's all well and good but I preferred Douglas Adam's original.
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Finally got around to binge-watching it. I think they did a great job of translating the book into TV series. Maybe a bit too much emphasis on Laura, she's crucial but barely in the book most of the time. I dig the visual style too, very rich.
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I'm still waiting to hear more about his follow up to "Parallels".

Think of "Sliders" only it's a building that shifts from reality to reality. It's a premise that could use a fresh series. Watching some of the originals, it is still stuck in that era where there are kinda sorta story arcs but the network isn't really behind it.

The "Parallels" movie was great, and it was recently announced that it will be a series with participation by Neil Gaiman called "The Building". Unfortunately, it will be on FOX, so it will be on for one or two seasons, attract a devoted following, and then get abruptly cancelled for stupid reasons.
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What I am waiting for from Gaiman is that "Good Omens" series Amazon is supposed to have committed to.
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It's disappointing sometimes how many shows or movies get announced and then disappear without a trace.

Remember when HBO got the Foundation rights? Nothing since.

Earlier example--back around 1999-2000 or so, Christina Ricci was supposed to be the lead in some scifi movie about a killer cyborg. That one vanished too.
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I have not seen a single episode. I'm waiting for it to end so I can binge.
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Good Omens has a terrrlible history of ending up in development hell. A movie has been in the works, off and on, since the 90s. Has never come to anything. This one was only announced early this year, so there is still hope.
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Good Omens was a better read. Not by far but by some. I'd love to see that movie. Harder to translate though, ya think.
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I think parts of it would be hard to translate. Like the end. But I would really like to see that movie climb out of development hell before I die.
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Rob Lister wrote:I have not seen a single episode. I'm waiting for it to end so I can binge.
i think it ended weeks ago, dinnit?
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i'm binging now, dangit.