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This is an example of the saying, "you made your bed, and now you must sleep in it."

FIFA’s Sepp Blatter says awarding 2022 World Cup to Qatar was ‘a mistake’
FIFA President Sepp Blatter is finally admitting what the rest of the soccer world has known ever since the announcement was made in December 2010: Awarding the 2022 World Cup to Qatar was a terrible idea.
Blatter also said that the tournament would likely have to be held in the winter because of the 100-degree-plus summer temperatures in the Middle Eastern nation.
Here’s Reuters:
“Of course, it was a mistake. You know, one comes across a lot of mistakes in life,” he told Swiss television station RTS in an interview.
“The Qatar technical report indicated clearly that it is too hot in summer, but the executive committee with quite a big majority decided all the same that the tournament would be in Qatar,” he added.
Asked whether the World Cup was likely to be held in the European winter, the 78-year-old replied: “It’s probable, yes. In fact, it’s more than probable.”
The soccer world howled when Qatar was awarded the sport’s marquee event over a bid from the United States, decrying the climate and the lack of any sort of soccer culture and suspecting that the decision was not entirely on the level. FIFA began an investigation over the voting procedure for both the 2022 World Cup and the 2018 event, which was awarded to Russia.
The Russia situation in 2018 could also be an awkward one, depending on the state of relations between Russia and the west.
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What, no air conditioning?
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Sorry, this is the sports section. . . .

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And now, The Sunday Times has the documents to prove it, or so they say.

It's behind a paywall, but you can read second-hand accounts here:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27656950
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_spot/201 ... _2022.html
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Yep. Great choice, FIFA:

Fifa to investigate arrest of BBC news team in Qatar
Football’s governing body, Fifa, has launched an investigation after a BBC news team was arrested in Qatar while reporting on the plight of migrant workers building stadiums for the 2022 World Cup.

The four-strong crew had been invited by the Qatari’s prime minister’s office on an official tour of new accommodation for construction workers. It was part of a public relations drive in the wake of an international outcry over the slave-like conditions for workers exposed by a Guardian investigation.

But despite official permission to report in Qatar, the crew were arrested by the security services, interrogated and jailed for two days before being released without charge.

The Qatari government defended the arrests and accused the BBC crew of trespassing.

Fifa, which has been repeatedly criticised for the way Qatar won the bid to host the 2022 World Cup, was helping to run the tour. It said it was investigating the arrests. “Any instance relating to an apparent restriction of press freedom is of concern to Fifa and will be looked into with the seriousness it deserves,” it said in a statement.

The BBC’s Middle East correspondent, Mark Lobel, was one of those detained, along with his cameraman, a driver and translator.

Speaking about his ordeal, Lobel said his interrogators never explained why he had been detained but showed him surveillance photographs of his movements in Qatar. “They had actually photographed my every move since I arrived,” Lobel told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.

After their release, members of the team were allowed to take part in the official tour of a migrant accommodation block but their equipment remained confiscated and Qatar has offered no explanation or apology for the arrests.
Also:
Qatar refuses to let Nepalese workers return to attend funerals after quake
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FIFA officials arrested over corruption charges, face U.S. extradition

Well, well, well. I must admit I'm a bit surprised. Not that they were corrupt but that they might actually face consequences for it.
Swiss authorities are arresting several top FIFA officials and plan to extradite them to the United States, where they will face federal corruption charges.

The New York Times reported that more than a dozen plainclothed Swiss law enforcement officials arrived unannounced at Zurich's Baur au Lac hotel in the early hours of Wednesday morning as leaders of FIFA gathered for their annual meeting.

The charges allege there has been widespread corruption throughout football's governing body over the past 20 years, involving bids for World Cups as well as marketing and broadcast deals.

Six officials were initially arrested including, according to The Times, vice presidents Jeffrey Webb and Eugenio Figueredo, former executive committee member Jack Warner and Costa Rica federation president Eduardo Li. The New York Times reports that a total of 14 people -- nine football officials and five sports-marketing executives -- are named in the indictment and face charges of wire fraud, racketeering and money laundering.

The arrests come just days before Friday's vote for the FIFA presidency, in which Sepp Blatter is widely expected to win re-election to a fifth term.

Blatter was not among the men arrested, FIFA spokesman Walter de Gregorio told The Associated Press.

"He is not involved at all," De Gregorio said.
Not involved at all! Well, at a minimum he turned a blind eye to what was obvious to the whole world.
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I feel like some of the people commenting, why the US? The sport is much more popular outside the US. No?
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jacks wrote:I feel like some of the people commenting, why the US? The sport is much more popular outside the US. No?
Irrelevant. It's about the cash, not the Ludi Circenses to keep the masses happy.
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Witness wrote:
jacks wrote:I feel like some of the people commenting, why the US? The sport is much more popular outside the US. No?
Irrelevant. It's about the cash, not the Ludi Circenses to keep the masses happy.
Just thought charges would be brought by the host country.
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jacks wrote:I feel like some of the people commenting, why the US? The sport is much more popular outside the US. No?
According to the ESPN article:
According to the U.S. request, these crimes were agreed and prepared in the U.S., and payments were carried out via U.S. banks."
And here's an official statement from FIFA:

http://www.fifa.com/governance/news/y=2 ... 09130.html
FIFA is fully cooperating as injured party in the actions by Swiss authorities
FIFA welcomes actions that can help contribute to rooting out any wrongdoing in football.
FIFA is fully cooperating with the investigation and is supporting the collection of evidence in this regard. As noted by the Swiss authorities, this collection of evidence is being carried out on a cooperative basis.

We are pleased to see that the investigation is being energetically pursued for the good of football and believe that it will help to reinforce measures that FIFA has already taken.
:lol:
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This New York Times article adds a little more detail.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/28/sport ... -them.html
The Justice Department built its case with help from a former FIFA executive, Chuck Blazer, who secretly pleaded guilty in federal court in 2013. Mr. Blazer forfeited $1.9 million when he entered his guilty plea and agreed to make a second payment at sentencing.

. . .

United States law gives the Justice Department wide authority to bring cases against foreign nationals living abroad, an authority that prosecutors have used repeatedly in international terrorism cases. Those cases can hinge on the slightest connection to the United States, like the use of an American bank or Internet service provider.

Switzerland’s treaty with the United States is unusual in that it gives Swiss authorities the power to refuse extradition for tax crimes, but on matters of general criminal law, the Swiss have agreed to turn people over for prosecution in American courts.
Those arrested seem to mostly be from Caribbean and Central and South American countries, but a US company executive who provided a bribe was also indicted.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
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The funny part of that one is if the USA did get the World Cup no one without a financial interest would give a shit despite all the media hype.
That is an interesting hypothetical question.

If the USA had been awarded the bid, would this have happened anyway?
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OOOH, Conspiracy theory time!

Can you guess who was really behind this move? Pulling the strings?

Hint:

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Will-F ... cer-404339
Spoiler:
The allegations are damning, but frankly, they couldn’t have come at a better time for Israel.
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... mself.html
Arrested Ex-FIFA Official Cites Onion Article to Defend Himself
Are these people really that clueless? :mrgreen:

The article:
FIFA Frantically Announces 2015 Summer World Cup In United States
Global Soccer Tournament To Kick Off In America Later This Afternoon
http://www.theonion.com/article/fifa-fr ... up-u-50525
:lol:
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So Blatter resigned 4 days after his re-election. This the slapstick section? :lol:
(Soon to come: FIFA ruled by Arabian prince. 1000&1 nights, I'm sure.)
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It's been all over the news here lately. What a fucking yawn.

A bunch of guys kicking a ball around a field. Who gives a fuck?
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Yeah, they cannot even throw it.

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FIFA releases a propaganda movie with impeccable timing:

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/united-passions/details
Even without the current headlines, United Passions is a disgrace. It’s less a movie than preposterous self-hagiography, more appropriate for Scientology or the Rev Sun Myung Moon. As cinema it is excrement. As proof of corporate insanity it is a valuable case study.
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'Russia & Qatar may lose World Cups' - Fifa official

Russia and Qatar could lose the 2018 and 2022 World Cups respectively if evidence emerges of bribery, leading Fifa official Domenico Scala has said.

The countries deny wrongdoing in their bidding processes and Scala admits he has not seen evidence of corruption.

Scala is the head of Fifa's audit and compliance committee.

He said: "Should there be evidence that the awards to Qatar and Russia came only because of bought votes, then the awards could be cancelled."

BBC
I think the "came only because" is a dodge. That being written, there is a lot of popular outcry against Qatar on both practical and humanitarian reasons. Russia's disastrous Olympics, along with invasion of the Ukraine and rampant homophombia, may lead to popular outcry on both . . . well . . . practical and humanitarian reasons.

Not that anyone in the US cares.

We like sports.

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In olden times:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ng_026.jpg

Nowadays:

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... e=563247BE
(that's the Jordanian prince who wants [or wanted?] to head FIFA)
http://zimg.se/images/2015/05/25/d89d8ee1.gif
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I would laugh but we have Roger "Woman Shoudn't Have Given Him Any Lip!" Goodel.

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So, not to defend Qatar because there's plenty of legitimate reasons to criticize them, but one claim you may have heard recently is that "1,200 workers have died preparing for the World Cup" in Qatar (this claim is repeated here, for example). This figure is a bit questionable. The BBC looked into it:

Have 1,200 World Cup workers really died in Qatar?

Conditions are indeed appalling, they admit, but you have put this figure in context:
Another factor that needs to be taken into account is that, according to one estimate, a third of migrant workers in Qatar don't even work in construction. The ITUC, though, is counting the deaths of workers in any line of work and from any cause, including road accidents and heart attacks.
But the Indian Government says in a press release: "Considering the large size of our community, the number of deaths is quite normal."

The point officials are making is that there are about half a million Indian workers in Qatar, and about 250 deaths per year - and this, in their view, is not a cause for concern. In fact, Indian government data suggests that back home in India you would expect a far higher proportion to die each year - not 250, but 1,000 in any group of 500,000 25-30-year-old men. Even in the UK, an average of 300 for every half a million men in this age group die each year.
So for men in the same age group, you would actually expect more to die in a population of the same size in the UK or India over the same time period.

Again, there's plenty of legitimate reasons to criticize Qatar, but this "1,200 workers have died" charge seems to be bogus. Even the Indian government, which ought to be the most concerned if its citizens are being mistreated has looked at it and determined that it isn't true.
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Unless they want to decrease their unemployment levels.

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Published on Jul 20, 2015

Controversial FIFA leader Sepp Blatter was showered with fake bank notes by British prankster Lee Nelson at a press conference today.
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Blatter's only objection concerned their small denomination. . . .

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