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Re: Windows 10

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When I launch XP (inside Virtualbox) it tells me there are updates available. Cute.

There is also a registry hack to get the XP updates meant for industrial stuff running that OS, as Microsoft still provides these.
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Re: Windows 10

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:)
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Re: Windows 10

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Windoze 10 recently began fucking up my USB host controllers every time it updated itself. This entailed uninstalling all of them and repeatedly restarting the machine until the OS finally reinstalled them itself. Much cussing ensued.

Here's a registry tweak that appears to have solved the problem for anyone similarly affected, (method 2).
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Really?

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Re: Windows 10

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Fuck.

You peeps are not instilling me with confidence about this....
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Re: Windows 10

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I reckon this isn't a very good 'site rookie' first post because, on the one hand, Rob Lister brought back memories of my earlier days with his images posted on page 1 (I think they were on Page 1) --- they reminded me of my Trash80s, which I still have a few of, with all sorts of those true floppies.

Anyway, that was a neat post, but then on Page 28 there is the sort of blunt statement of no support for Win7 and that isn't quite right, if this 'site rookie' can be excused for making that statement of a site veteran's post. I would state the situation as no 'Mainstream' support, as I think I remember seeing the MacroHard folks stating it.

So let me make a contribution here concerning the Win7 and a few associated other bits. Sort of stuffing a bunch of interesting information into the post and possibly useful links. Well, 'useful' for anyone who is going to try and use the Win7 until its sails can no longer be mended and the masts are fully rotted and the sloop can no longer put out to the vast Net Ocean.

<> <> <> <> <> Possible Useful Info <> <> <> <> <>

*Confession and sorry* I don't remember if this is my own wording or is quoted from the MacroHard folks, so I won't use the quote code here.

- - - On January 14, 2020, Microsoft will stop supporting Windows 7. Mainstream supported ended in 2015, but Windows 7 has carried on receiving security updates thanks to extended support. When that ends in 2020, Windows

7 will remain as it is. Businesses will be able to pay Microsoft for continued Windows 7 support.- - - On second look it might be those are MicroHrad words, but just in case I'll leave the quote code off.

Support for Windows 7 is ending
After January 14, 2020, Microsoft will no longer provide security updates or support for PCs running Windows 7.

Can Windows 7 still be activated after January 14, 2020?

Windows 7 can still be installed and activated after support has ended. However, to avoid security risks and viruses, Microsoft recommends that you consider upgrading to Windows 10.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lif ... edded%207'
Windows Embedded Compact 7 Mainstream Support End Date = 4/12/2016; Extended Support End Date = 4/13/2021
Windows Embedded POSReady 7 Mainstream Support End Date = 10/11/2016; Extended Support End Date = 10/12/2021


https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... eb 2, 2019

Create installation media for Windows - - (Content provided by Microsoft)
Applies to: Windows 10, Windows 8.1, Windows 7

If you want to install or reinstall Windows 7, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10, you can go to the software download website, select the link that matches your version of Windows, and create your own installation media using either a USB flash drive or a DVD.
<> <> <>

I am not seeing in my notes up there a reference to the Update Catalog, but the MicroHard folks did some streamlining of that update stuff and now all the updates from ages back and the new ones are all put together in the old style Sears catalog style, except now it is online for MicroHard customers and many of the customers folks don't even remember the Sears catalog. (does Sears still have some sort of catalog?)

<> <> <>

Last thing, if I may: I am aware of staying on topic and I know this thread is supposed to be about all the wonderful stuff associated with Win10, but there were some questions about Win7, so I hope you site veterans don't throw tin foil at me to block the signal. Just thought I might be of some help. If I am not being helpful, please except my apology now.
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Re: Windows 10

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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:15 am So basically, the key to a proper 10 installation is hours of work to get it to act like 7 ;)
Well, you have to earn its trust. :P


German privacy commissioners ban Windows 10 and Office 365 in schools

Microsoft has once again run afoul of the GDPR rules in Germany, with the Commissioner for Data Protection and Freedom of Information in the German state Hesse, declaring that Windows 10 and Office 365 is not compliant with the GDPR for use in schools.

The issue is related to the telemetry both cloud-connected solutions send back to Microsoft in USA, which ranges from standard software diagnostics to user content from inside applications, potentially sentences from documents and email subject lines.

Previously Microsoft provided a special version of these software applications which stored the data in European data centres, but recently this permission was rescinded, and data was being sent directly to USA.

Michael Ronellenfitsch, Hesse’s data protection commissioner, said that public institutions in Germany “have a special responsibility with regard to the permissibility and traceability of the processing of personal data.”

Ronellenfitsch adds, “As soon as, in particular, the possible third-party access to the data in the cloud and the issue of telemetry data have been resolved in a comprehensible and data protection-compliant manner, Office 365 can be used as a cloud solution by schools.”

He noted Microsoft’s issues also affected other IT solution providers, saying “What is true for Microsoft is also true for the Google and Apple cloud solutions. The cloud solutions of these providers have so far not been transparent and comprehensibly set out. Therefore, it is also true that for schools, the privacy-compliant use is currently not possible.”
https://mspoweruser.com/german-privacy- ... n-schools/
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Re: Windows 10

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Big update, took an hour to install.

Everything went OK, just had to re-tweak some settings.

Cool: dark background in file explorer. :)
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Re: Windows 10

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Bananas?-Yes wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:18 am I reckon this isn't a very good 'site rookie' first post because, on the one hand, Rob Lister brought back memories of my earlier days with his images posted on page 1 (I think they were on Page 1) --- they reminded me of my Trash80s, which I still have a few of, with all sorts of those true floppies.

Anyway, that was a neat post, but then on Page 28 there is the sort of blunt statement of no support for Win7 and that isn't quite right, if this 'site rookie' can be excused for making that statement of a site veteran's post. I would state the situation as no 'Mainstream' support, as I think I remember seeing the MacroHard folks stating it.

So let me make a contribution here concerning the Win7 and a few associated other bits. Sort of stuffing a bunch of interesting information into the post and possibly useful links. Well, 'useful' for anyone who is going to try and use the Win7 until its sails can no longer be mended and the masts are fully rotted and the sloop can no longer put out to the vast Net Ocean.

<> <> <> <> <> Possible Useful Info <> <> <> <> <>

*Confession and sorry* I don't remember if this is my own wording or is quoted from the MacroHard folks, so I won't use the quote code here.

- - - On January 14, 2020, Microsoft will stop supporting Windows 7. Mainstream supported ended in 2015, but Windows 7 has carried on receiving security updates thanks to extended support. When that ends in 2020, Windows

7 will remain as it is. Businesses will be able to pay Microsoft for continued Windows 7 support.- - - On second look it might be those are MicroHrad words, but just in case I'll leave the quote code off.

Support for Windows 7 is ending
After January 14, 2020, Microsoft will no longer provide security updates or support for PCs running Windows 7.

Can Windows 7 still be activated after January 14, 2020?

Windows 7 can still be installed and activated after support has ended. However, to avoid security risks and viruses, Microsoft recommends that you consider upgrading to Windows 10.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lif ... edded%207'
Windows Embedded Compact 7 Mainstream Support End Date = 4/12/2016; Extended Support End Date = 4/13/2021
Windows Embedded POSReady 7 Mainstream Support End Date = 10/11/2016; Extended Support End Date = 10/12/2021


https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... eb 2, 2019

Create installation media for Windows - - (Content provided by Microsoft)
Applies to: Windows 10, Windows 8.1, Windows 7

If you want to install or reinstall Windows 7, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10, you can go to the software download website, select the link that matches your version of Windows, and create your own installation media using either a USB flash drive or a DVD.
<> <> <>

I am not seeing in my notes up there a reference to the Update Catalog, but the MicroHard folks did some streamlining of that update stuff and now all the updates from ages back and the new ones are all put together in the old style Sears catalog style, except now it is online for MicroHard customers and many of the customers folks don't even remember the Sears catalog. (does Sears still have some sort of catalog?)

<> <> <>

Last thing, if I may: I am aware of staying on topic and I know this thread is supposed to be about all the wonderful stuff associated with Win10, but there were some questions about Win7, so I hope you site veterans don't throw tin foil at me to block the signal. Just thought I might be of some help. If I am not being helpful, please except my apology now.
You got your mind right?
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Re: Windows 10

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There's dirt in my ditch.
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Re: Windows 10

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Second machine updated, took ~ 10 minutes, no problem. :)
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https://www.halloweenforum.com/attachme ... pg.142811/

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Doctor X wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:38 am https://www.halloweenforum.com/attachme ... pg.142811/

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Looks like my place, except 5th wheels don't have brick siding...(and just to piss off Rob).........
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Re: Windows 10

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https://i.imgur.com/CYtEQas.jpg

:shock:
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Re: Windows 10

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Captain wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:48 am You got your mind right?
I've been kind of wondering there, Mr. Captain -- Leader of Leaders within this fine Community -- why I drew your ire with my post?

But, to be frank, I hope my mind ain't right, because then I might fit into the category of being a normal human on this planet and that is a frightening thought.

My studies for some 60 years has taught me that it is the humans throughout history that did not have their minds right that created situations that then improved the lives of the "normal" humans on the planet.

Yes, there have been some awful cases where those with minds not right have done horrible things, but so far the good side of the 'not right minds' have prevailed over those bad ones.

So what exactly is it Mr. Captain -- Leader of Leaders that you fear about us human folks that do not have our minds right?

EDIT: Apologies, but I seem to be having some trouble with the quote tags here, or whatever them bracket thingies are called. Don't mean to be appearing to place my words into a "Looks-Like-Captain-Words" looking post, is what I mean. My screen grab I always do for my log shows some weirdness along the lines of what I am apologizing for

EDIT#2: Figured it out. Again, sorry.
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Re: Windows 10

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You call the Captain, "Captain!"

And you call the rest of us "Boss," you hear?!
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Re: Windows 10

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I've got no problems with that, at all. I was just writing in the other thread about some bosses I have around here and they are a whole bunch worse than you human types. Them feline ones are much worse!
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Bananas?-Yes wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:17 am I've got no problems with that, at all. I was just writing in the other thread about some bosses I have around here and they are a whole bunch worse than you human types. Them feline ones are much worse!
The Captain and his minions are retired hall monitors from the local Middle School. Being long time Florida residents they have been exposed to whatever it is down here that makes folks sorta insane. That and being well into their 80's makes for some prickly behavior on their part. Don't worry too much, it is unlikely that they can catch you, even on on a good day. Be careful of the "Box" that they talk about. Near as I can tell it's some sort of Gay BDSM think that they have in the back. I suspect that that is what happens with a lot of new posters who simply disappear. Abdul is involved in some way but I have not figured that part out yet. If you have ever been to Florida you know that you see them scattered around. That is why most of us go armed down here. Imagine sloshing thru a swamp and having Abdul pop up, clawing at you, trying to drag you into "The Box". It doesn't bear thing about. What you do in that situation is put a couple into his knees and hightail it from whence thou hast cometh.

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Be careful with the latest updates: borked my laptop. :|
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Witness wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:09 pm Be careful with the latest updates: borked my laptop. :|
Solved. It's a bug in Cortana, which makes it hog the CPU (and renders the Windows search unusable):

https://i.imgur.com/hZi37vo.png

You have to allow Cortana to use Bing for searches, a small registry hack described here: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/m ... n-cortana/.
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Re: Windows 10

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↑ Sounds somehow bittersweet. :wink:

While puttering around I learned that you can reinstall Windows from ISO without losing your files (nothing new), but also without losing installed software. Tried, worked (but took ages). Cool! :)
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Another improvement with the update: I was able to connect my Bluetooth mouse without the provided dongle. Which means one USB port freed. :)
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A while back I installed Windows 10 on two Windows 7 laptops which I'd not upgraded during the 'free upgrade' period - as they were work laptops containing lots of software I'd written for customers that requires ongoing support.

So they've been running WIndows 10 as one option (also still Windows 7 and Linux as other boot options) for a few months now, but with the 'unlicensed' watermark showing, and I thought I should see about buying some activation keys.

I had a disastrous waste of time attempting to purchase some keys from one of the cheap on-line sales places (Kinguin - after much delay registering it finally refused to accept my credit card for payment).

I almost paid the full price from the Microsoft shop for some keys, but I thought, what happens if I try typing in the (Windows 7) activation keys from the stickers still on the bottom of the laptops. Bingo! Both activated Windows 10 without any complaint and one of them which had the 'Ultimate' edition of Windows 7 (whatever that was) insisted on automatically upgrading the Windows 10 from the home edition which I'd downloaded and installed to the Pro edition.

So it seems you can still install Windows 10 and activate it for free using your old WIndows 7 activation keys - and still keep the WIndows 7 activated too. Of course, I was doing this on the same laptops that the Windows 7 keys originally came with (though I had upgraded both of them with some extra RAM and SSD disks). Whether you'd be allowed to use an old Windows 7 key to activate Windows 10 on a different PC I don't know.

Also, I should add, there seemed to be hardly any drawbacks running Windows 10 in the 'unactivated' state. I still got all the updates and everything seemed to work normally. Only small drawbacks were the annoying watermark on the desktop and the 'personalization' options weren't available. I wasn't bothered about the personalization thing as I never use it and don't really know what it's for. Of course, I don't know how long Microsoft will continue to allow unactivated copies to continue to work and receive updates - that was why I decided to activate them.
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↑ Quick, tell sparks!
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I've noticed that all browsers take significantly longer to start working after the last major update. Anyone else having problems?
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Re: Windows 10

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↑ Browsers OK. My laptop boots even a tad faster.
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Re: Windows 10

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Strange. Think I'll go back to my last backup and try again.
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Re: Windows 10

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Another update last night. Screwed the Wifi (Qualcomm Atheros) on my laptop which was already flaky. Installed a driver from https://www.ath-drivers.eu/ as Atheros only sells to manufacturers, to no avail. So for now it's my Netgear dongle. :|
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I solved my browser problem. Turned out it was my Comodo firewall that didn't like the update.

I've had similar problems with WiFi adapters, Witness. The Qualcomm card in my old laptop failed to work at all with W10, although it had been fine with 7 & 8. The (expensive) Netgear A6210 I use with my PC has also needed much buggering about with since 10 was installed; again, there were no problems with 7 or 8. Piss-poor when WiFi is now pretty much essential.
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Re: Windows 10

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Solved (for now at least, we'll see tomorrow when I boot…). As my W10 is an upgrade from W8 there was still a W8 driver on the machine, and I could install that – after jumping through the usual Microsoft hoops, boxes clearly meant for 800x600 screens, options in small type, &c. It also took some tinkering with the router and the connect option in Windows ("can't connect to this network"), but now it works.

And it's faster than my archaic Netgear dongle. :)
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Re: Windows 10

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Witness wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:51 pm Solved
Confirm the old W8 driver works splendidly with W10: connection is already up when the desktop appears at boot and no more random disconnects. :)

Now I need some kW router to tackle the problem of too much neighbors with Wi-Fi:

https://i.imgur.com/YrcJwo6.png

:De_Bunk:
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Re: Windows 10

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I've just installed a new motherboard in my main PC, as the old one was beginning to fail. W10 is now flying; 25 seconds from pressing the button to sign in screen. :)
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Oh, you sign in? :mrgreen:
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Re: Windows 10

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Can't have Mrs. C. finding all the NBLs, can I?
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Re: Windows 10

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Witness wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:15 am Now I need some kW router to tackle the problem of too much neighbors with Wi-Fi
Law of unavoidable coincidences: my router went on the fritz. Got a new one from my ISP the next day. Signal quality considerably improved, neighbors quashed. :)

Yet it's the exact same model (a Chinese Compal). :?
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Re: Windows 10

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:lmao: here in Brazil most use Windows 10 pirate!
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:46 am I'm 100% convinced now. Definitely robinson.

I'm not ! I was never a member of this forum.
I'm from Brazil, I mean it! :)
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https://i.imgur.com/ADNrtaT.jpg
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Two updates in two days. Everything went well, even my boot options stayed put. :)

For the privacy concerned, have a look at Blackbird.
How Blackbird Works

Without going into too much detail, Blackbird employs some known and less-known techniques to fully disarm Windows while leaving the smallest possible footprint.

For instance, Blackbird does not edit the HOSTS file in any way, nor does it mess with your firewall settings.
It does not run in the background, instead relying on persistent routes and resolving hostnames to IP addresses each time Blackbird is applied by the user.

After usage no new files are left behind on your computer and you can safely delete blackbird.exe. Blackbird has succedded when you forget it was ever there. Everything our software does can be restored using the software itself or manually by hand. (*Dev.notice: Please don't do this manually, it will take forever and is confusing)

There are other tools that claim to block Windows spying but they are cumbersome to use and not as powerful or are limited in scope. So we took Windows apart, piece by piece, analyzed web traffic, system calls, file changes,etc., compared different configurations, designed and built a stand-alone tool and spent hundreds of hours on beta testing so anyone can use it and it gets the job done right.
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Witness wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:01 am Two updates in two days. Everything went well, even my boot options stayed put. :)

For the privacy concerned, have a look at Blackbird.
How Blackbird Works

Without going into too much detail, Blackbird employs some known and less-known techniques to fully disarm Windows while leaving the smallest possible footprint.

For instance, Blackbird does not edit the HOSTS file in any way, nor does it mess with your firewall settings.
It does not run in the background, instead relying on persistent routes and resolving hostnames to IP addresses each time Blackbird is applied by the user.

After usage no new files are left behind on your computer and you can safely delete blackbird.exe. Blackbird has succedded when you forget it was ever there. Everything our software does can be restored using the software itself or manually by hand. (*Dev.notice: Please don't do this manually, it will take forever and is confusing)

There are other tools that claim to block Windows spying but they are cumbersome to use and not as powerful or are limited in scope. So we took Windows apart, piece by piece, analyzed web traffic, system calls, file changes,etc., compared different configurations, designed and built a stand-alone tool and spent hundreds of hours on beta testing so anyone can use it and it gets the job done right.
That's looks very cool but it's closed source and I have trust issues. There's very little written about them; a few forums, softpedia (blah) and ghack (double blah).