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That chart is accurate but it's also bullshit.

True the action is 11 minutes, but they don't take into account substitutions, play adjustments, etc.. All this is just shit talking from people who don't enjoy the game. You can have similar charts for every other sport, even action-driven sports like hockey and basketball.
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They suck too.
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Warm up the popcorn:
If the NFL wanted a fight with Tom Brady, they’re going to get one. And history indicates it’s not going to turn out real well for the league.

A day after being suspended four games for his role in Deflategate, the Patriots quarterback has hired 61-year-old Jeffrey Kessler as his lawyer for this Deflategate, as reported by ESPN’s Adam Schefter. He has represented the players associations of the NFL and NBA in countless arbitrations involving player free agency rights, collusion claims, and salary caps.

Why should the NFL, which also fined the Patriots $1 million and docked the team two draft picks, be concerned?

Kessler is arguably the most successful lawyer in history representing clients who take on established sports leagues. Namely:

In Brady v. NFL, he successfully represented a class of NFL players in an antitrust action which eventually led to the end of the 2011 NFL lockout.

In Belichick v. NFL, et al., he represented Belichick in litigation over changing teams.

In NFLPA v. NFL, he represented NFLPA in a successful challenge to provisions of NFL TV Contracts used to fund the NFL 2011 Lockout.

In McNeil, et al. v. NFL, et al., he won jury verdict for NFL players striking down free agency restrictions under the antitrust laws, eventually leading to the Reggie White class action. That case paved the way for the negotiation of free agency and the salary cap system in the NFL.

In North American Soccer League, et al. v. NFL, he successfully represented North American Soccer League in antitrust case striking down NFL ownership rules.

Most recently, he represented Adrian Peterson and forced the league to reinstate the running back. Safe to say, the NFL didn’t envision this when they started asking about PSIs of footballs in January.

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ed wrote:They suck too.
I didn't know you was a hater.
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Grammatron wrote:
ed wrote:They suck too.
I didn't know you was a hater.
Professional sports? Yeah, pretty much.
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He's an all hating god.
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Why include Mayweather when there are plenty of criminals playing for (or retired from) NFL?
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I think we can also safely say that this will be a South Park episode.
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Oh shit yes. They are serious Bronchos fans. Their "Al Qaeda Cartoon" had shitting on Brady. Another episode has Brady crapping his pants against the Bronchos. It is all good.

Sort of like the way Phil Collins thinks when he looks at his Oscar.

As for Floyd "I Done TOLD You ONCE!" I think it is relevant since:
  • 1. Almost zero condemnation of him--see ESPN 24-7 lauding him for about a month.
    2. Reporters were sanctioned and lost credentials for bringing up the topic.
    3. Floyd claims he is innocent despite confessing guilt--he does not give a shit.
    4. During all of this what were people talking about? Deflategate.
    5. People are openly talking about his next fight.
It just goes to show how fatuous this all is. Or as Attorney General Maura Healey observed:
Attorney General Maura Healey yesterday slammed the NFL for having its “priorities misplaced” after the multibillion-dollar league slammed Tom Brady and the Patriots with stiff “Deflategate” penalties but have failed to swing as hard on past instances of domestic violence and sexual assault involving players.

“I see the money and time and energy put into the Deflategate investigation,” Healey told the Herald. “You compare that with what they did and what they’ve done on incidents of domestic violence and sexual assault, it leaves me with the view that the NFL’s priorities are misplaced.

“This again reflects an indifference and callousness of the league and a failure to take account of what seems to be a pervasive problem of sexual assault and domestic violence,” Healey said. “They need to lead. ... They have a platform and have an opportunity to lead. I’d like to see them step up and do that.”
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Healey said she worries about the message the NFL is sending to children and college athletes when on-the-field penalties against the Pats are so harsh, yet former Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice — who was caught on a camera striking his then-fiancee — initially only received a two-game suspension.

Healey said she wants to know what the NFL is doing to address off-field violence involving players.

“I haven’t seen the effort. I saw a couple of ads run during the halftime of the Super Bowl. ... What kind of screenings are they doing of draft picks? What kind of education are they doing with players?”

She added she’d like to see the NFL adopt a “zero-tolerance” policy on domestic violence and sexual assault.

Education around the issues should start with high school athletes, Healey said.

“You look at teen dating violence. It happens. And it’s happening here in Massachusetts and across the country,” Healey said. “We’ve got to start changing the culture around this, and I think the best time to do this is with our young people.”

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Tom Brady has lawyered up, and many believe the team he put together is on par with the Super Bowl XLIX champs. The New England Patriots quarterback could have his DeflateGate suspension overturned, a source texted ESPN’s Adam Schefter, who relayed the message on “The Herd With Colin Cowherd.” “Brady’s team is unreal,” the source said. “Talented, big-name lawyers: Yee, Kessler, etc. Prediction=won’t miss a game.”

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I am willing to wager that Tom Brady will miss at least 1 game.
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I actually have no idea.

One thing that is incorrect in many reports is that Brady did not hire the lawyers; the NFLPA did. A lot depends on who hears the appeal and how far Brady is going to push it. I predict he will push it as far as he can unless he knows he is guilty. Despite claims to the contrary, the number is designed to be cut in half on appeal. The NFL always does that. I do not agree with it, but that is what they do.

Beyond that, people are predicting all sorts of things all the way to threats to challenge the NFL non-trust status--something this lawyer sort of started in one of his successful cases.

But people predict a lot of things.

The Wells interview did not help Wells, his report, or the NFL. A critical point will be demonstrating that the investigation was not unbiased. Wells pretty much demonstrated his bias in the interview. I think this is why a few "actual lawyers" are predicting that ultimately the NFL will lose this.

Remember, they lost a year-long suspension twice. Now what also matters is timing. For example, say the appeal brings it down to the predicted 1-2 games and Brady pushes it further. His team could get an injunction halting any suspension pending the litigation. So, practically, no games.

Or maybe he does not get that. So he ends up serving the suspension during litigation. At the end, even if exonerated and Goodell is forced to [CENSORED--Ed.] Brady under the direction of Giselle, he has already not played those games. He will get paid, but that will not be the point.

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And so it begins:
Ryan Hannable:

On Thursday the Patriots released a Wells Report in Context, which contradicts many of the findings of the Wells Report released last week. The Patriots’ report can be found here.

Here are some of the very quick takeaways as stated at the beginning of the report:

— The conclusions of the Wells Report are, at best, incomplete, incorrect and lack context. The Report dismisses the scientific explanation for the natural loss of psi of the Patriots footballs by inexplicably rejecting the Referee’s recollection of what gauge he used in his pregame inspection.”

— Texts acknowledged to be attempts at humor and exaggeration are nevertheless interpreted as a plot to improperly deflate footballs, even though none of them refer to any such plot.

— There is no evidence that Tom Brady preferred footballs that were lower than 12.5 psi and no evidence anyone even thought that he did.

— All the extensive evidence which contradicts how the texts are interpreted by the investigators is simply dismissed as “not plausible.” Inconsistencies in logic and evidence are ignored.

The report was done by Daniel L. Goldberg, a senior partner in the Boston office of Morgan Lewis and who represented the Patriots and was present during all of the interviews of Patriots personnel conducted at Gillette Stadium.

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A crapload of information. Here is a nice "tidbit" I heard some rumors about:
In short? According to the Patriots, McNally was operating in plain sight, and the league — which handles the on-site coordination at conference championship games — did a poor job when it came to overseeing the whole thing.

“Nowhere in the report, however, is there any discussion about whether the referee or other League officials failed to properly maintain this supervision, which one would have expected to have been particularly vigilant in the wake of the Colts expressed concerns. The report acknowledges that game officials specifically allowed Mr. McNally to take the game footballs from the dressing room of the Officials’ Locker Room (where the referee was) into the separate sitting room (pg. 55).”

According to the report, McNally walked right past a group of officials, who were apparently paying more attention to the outcome of the NFC championship game between the Packers and Seahawks in overtime than McNally and the footballs.

“No one told Mr. McNally that he could not then proceed to the field with the footballs. When the NFC Championship Game ended abruptly in overtime and Mr. McNally started from the back of the sitting room towards the door to the hallway, he walked by numerous League officials in the sitting room. As the report states (pg. 55), the sitting room was crowded with NFL personnel, game officials and others gathered there to watch the conclusion of the NFC Championship Game on television. Mr. McNally had to navigate this crowd of officials to make it through the sitting room with two large bags of footballs on his shoulders.

“Mr. McNally, a physically big man, hoisted two large bags of footballs and lumbered past all these League officials and out the door of the Officials’ Locker Room. As is clear from the report, no one objected; no one told him to stop; no one requested that he wait to be accompanied by a League official; no one told him that a League official had to carry the footballs to the field. After he walked past all of these League officials and out the door of the Officials’ Locker Room to the hallway, he then walked past James Daniel, an NFL official and one of the people who had been alerted to the Colts psi concerns pre-game (pg. 45). Mr. Daniel, as seen on the security video, looked at Mr. McNally carrying the bags of footballs toward the field unaccompanied by any League or game official, and made no objection to Mr. McNally continuing unaccompanied to the field.

“In short, if officials lost track of the location of game footballs, it was not because Mr. McNally stealthily removed them. (Omitted from the investigation were interviews with all those League officials whom Mr. McNally walked past with the bags of footballs on his shoulders.)”

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Doctor X wrote: As for Floyd "I Done TOLD You ONCE!" I think it is relevant since:
  • 1. Almost zero condemnation of him--see ESPN 24-7 lauding him for about a month.
    2. Reporters were sanctioned and lost credentials for bringing up the topic.
    3. Floyd claims he is innocent despite confessing guilt--he does not give a shit.
    4. During all of this what were people talking about? Deflategate.
    5. People are openly talking about his next fight.
Good points. I was watching Inside the NBA on TNT yesterday and Floyd was at one of the games and he gave a shout out to the hosts, and they all gave one back. Sad really.
Attorney General Maura Healey yesterday slammed the NFL for having its “priorities misplaced” after the multibillion-dollar league slammed Tom Brady and the Patriots with stiff “Deflategate” penalties but have failed to swing as hard on past instances of domestic violence and sexual assault involving players.
Do they have Buzzfeed "writers" working for Boston Herald these days? :P
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BURP!
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Grammatron wrote:Do they have Buzzfeed "writers" working for Boston Herald these days? :P
They all cannibalize sources. I have given up trying to--especially after today--hunting it all down. The Boston Herald is the Daily Mail without "the tits on Page 3!" The alternative is the Boston Globe which is arguing that the problem with Shipstain is he was unloved.

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Little hands, little dick.

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I think he just fucked Brady,
The New England Patriots will not appeal their punishment in the aftermath of the Deflategate scandal, owner Robert Kraft announced on Tuesday at the NFL spring meetings.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf ... /27583829/

I think it would cost more than the million dollar fine to fight it.
"Although I may disagree with what was decided, I do have respect for the commissioner and believe he is doing what he believes is in the best interest of the full 32 (NFL teams)," Kraft, a longtime supporter of Commissioner Roger Goodell,
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jacks wrote:I think he just fucked Brady,
You think incorrectly. His decision to fight or not fight the sanctions is irrelevant to what Brady and the Union are doing and will do. He did rather reveal an important fact yesterday: that Brady denied, to him, all knowledge of anything.

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I don't blame him for paying the million and walking away, but he's supporting Goodell not Brady.
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jacks wrote:I don't blame him for paying the million and walking away, but he's supporting Goodell not Brady.
I would not take acquiescence to punishment as a sign of support of Goodell. There are many behind-the-scene reasons why Kraft chose to not continue this fight. And as Doc said, this is not connected to what NFLPA and Brady will or will not be doing going forward.
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The owners also agree to not sue the NFL as part of their franchise contract. That does not mean they cannot sue--you can always sue--it just makes it very difficult to win. You have to be Al Davis and willing to threaten all sorts of apocalyptic scenarios that may also blow up in your face.

Meanwhile, the union already has Vincent on breaking the CBA. I would not be surprised if the overgrown infant that is Goodell sticks in his heels and forces Brady and the Union to formally sue. Goodell has allowed somewhat independent arbiters in previous cases and they have all blown up in his face--some spectacularly. Such as one basically accusing him of lying and a former commissioner racking him over the coals.

So he will not do that. If Brady wins he can always state "I upheld the rules!" in a pathetic D'Ratian Face-Losing effort. He will still make his 30+ million a year until, I think, 2018. I do not expect his contract to be renewed after that, but who knows. That is a long time and the NFL is making money.

Meanwhile, meanwhile, the union is trying to force him to step aside since he will be a witness in the appeal. How well that will work is anyone's guess. I gather "not too well" but Brady and the Union's lawyers will use that as further evidences--thanks--that this was a witch hunt, "a gross violation of rights, Lister's Mom®, the American flag, and stuff."

Then the only question is whether or not the Federal case is strong enough that Brady will be granted an injunction on the suspensions. However, even if he does not he would have had the suspensions anyways. So at worse, if he wins, he can say he had them overturned and blame Goodell and Vincent and the NFL at large for being vindictive dumbasses.

I will say that Brady has no choice in this now. If he is innocent--as he has indicated--why would he not fight? Everyday, a the NFL looked more and more incompetent. Quite a few like Chris "Mad Dog Does Not Read Reports!" Russo have played the "If Curly and Larry are innocent, why are they suspended."

Answer: the NFL told Kraft to suspend them.

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Doctor X wrote:.

Meanwhile, important things are happening somewhere.

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Yup.
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If anyone doubted that the Player's Union plans to take this to court:
Another serious blow has been delivered to the credibility of the centerpiece of the NFL’s attack on Tom Brady and the Patriots.

In an opinion piece published in Friday’s New York Times, a group of scientific and economic experts from the American Enterprise Institute systematically deconstruct the Ted Wells report and determine that the findings of wrongdoing are “deeply flawed” based on the lack of scientific merit.

Why would the NFL be concerned about this?

The American Enterprise Institute was the same group that presented its findings on the “Bountygate” scandal to the NFL in Nov. 2012. Saints officials were accused of offering bonuses to Saints players who injured members of opposing teams ' [Sic.--Ed.] a policy alleged to have been in place from 2009 to 2011. The league handed out several suspensions, including a year ban of head coach Sean Payton.

But in 2012, AEI published an analysis of NFL injury data that found that the Saints injured fewer opposing players than all but two teams did in 2009, and fewer than all but one team did from 2009 to 2011. Even if Saints officials offered “bounties,” there was no reliable and sustainable evidence that Saints players “were influenced” by them.

After presenting the report, the league vacated the players’ suspensions a month later.
To cut to the chase, the report linked in the article concludes:
Our recommendation? When the N.F.L. hears Mr. Brady’s appeal of his suspension later this month, it should proceed with the knowledge that the Wells report is unreliable.

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Too flat.
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Tom Brady is said to be seeking total exoneration, and it appears he’s entitled to it. The idea that Brady and the New England Patriots intentionally deflated footballs for a competitive advantage has been discredited by everyone from sidewalk chemists to Web physicists to unlicensed ceramicists, not to mention your own common sense. But most importantly, it is utterly shredded in a new scientific analysis by the American Enterprise Institute, which shows the only inflation problem is in NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell’s head.

The NFL paid millions for a fundamentally flawed report by lawyer Ted Wells that made Brady and the Patriots out to be slam-dunk guilty, based on more than 100 pages of mathematical analysis of ball pressurization . . . that turns out to be erroneous. The AEI’s report totally rejects the finding that the footballs used by the Patriots in the AFC championship game had a significant drop in air pressure compared with those used by the Colts. But the truly damning sentence is this one, buried in its erudite phrasings and equations: “The Wells report’s statistical analysis cannot be replicated by performing the analysis as described in the report,” the AEI concludes.

Basically, the math didn’t add up. It’s a standard principle in science: If you can’t replicate a set of results, then there is a problem with it. A flaw or a fraud is at work. Either you made a mistake, or you made it up.

When the AEI analysts looked more closely at how such a mistake could have been made, what they found “astonished” them, says the report’s co-author Stan Veuger. The Wells report “relies on an unorthodox statistical procedure at odds with the methodology the report describes.” Translation: The Wells report said it would use one equation but then used a different (and weird) equation to arrive at its numbers.

“It was really clumsy,” Veuger says. “It’s the kind of mistake you’d see in freshman statistics class.”

Another phrase possibly applies to all of this:

Falsifying results.

Normally, these “special counsel” reports are airtight documents. They’re meant to give sports leagues an unshakable legal basis for discipline and protect league integrity. The report by Major League Baseball on Pete Rose’s gambling was an unassailable document of 215 pages that included 313 witnesses and seven volumes of exhibits, including bank and phone records and transcripts of interviews that made it impossible for Rose to fight his banishment. But lately the NFL has begun turning these special counsel investigations into manipulated campaigns calculated to enhance the commissioner’s profile and powers.

And they seem to be written to fit predetermined conclusions.

Twice now Goodell has ginned up false scandals that seriously and unfairly targeted individual players and damaged franchises on what turned out to be bogus or flawed evidence.

Sally Jenkins: Washington Post
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And it keeps getting better:
Deflategate Favored Foul Play Over Science

[Gives a good summary of the events up to the Wells Report with a rather nice swipe at Bill "12th Man" Nye.--Ed.]

Scientist Michael Naughton (expert in condensed matters physics, Buffalo Bills fan) lent his expertise to the matter when the controversy initially blew up. Naughton’s lab at Boston College inflated a football to 13.5 psi at 72° F. Then they stuck it in a fridge and measured the pressure at 42° F (slightly cooler than the low on game night of 47.7° F, the average of measurements from two weather stations near Gillette Stadium). The pressure dropped to 10.5 psi.

HeadSmart labs, a Pittsburgh-based engineering firm that ordinarily conducts research related to helmets and concussions, also turned its attention to the matter. Experiments done by CEO Tom Healy (mechanical engineering Ph.D. student, Patriots fan) and others in the lab (not Patriots fans) simulated field conditions by placing 12 balls inflated to 12.5 psi in a cold room for 2.5 hours. Measurements revealed an average drop of 1.07 psi, well within the range of the halftime measurements. Saturating the balls with water to mimic field conditions bumped the measurements down another 0.75 psi, they conclude in a technical paper. (HeadSmart has launched a crowd-funding campaign to raise research funds to further investigate the matter.)

It would be one thing if the Wells Report (which consulted Daniel Marlow, experimental high energy physics expert at Princeton) just said that additional evidence (bathroom breaks and text messages, among other things) was more compelling than the pressure data. Or if it noted that the pressure data are ambiguous, collected so haphazardly that they wouldn’t be allowed in a high school science fair: Two different gauges that differed by approximately 0.4 psi were used in taking measurements, and it isn’t clear which one was used in the pre-game measurements because those data were not recorded. At halftime, 11 Patriots’ balls and four Colts’ balls were measured, and while all of the Patriots’ balls measured below 12.5 psi, three of the four Colts’ balls also did, according to one of the gauges.

Post-game psi measurements of four Patriots balls ranged from 12.95 to 13.65. These data, the Wells Report acknowledges (in a footnote), “did not provide a scientifically reasonable basis on which to conduct a comparative analysis.” If the report can acknowledge poor methodology for the post-game data, why not acknowledge that for the pre-game and halftime data as well?

Roderick MacKinnon of Rockefeller University specifically addressed the scientific methodology in a letter posted to The Wells Report in Context, the Patriots’ rebuttal to the report’s conclusions (MacKinnon, professor of molecular neurobiology and biophysics, and chemistry Nobel laureate, was conducting experiments in a basement microscope facility and couldn’t immediately respond to my requests for his team allegiance):

“The scientific analysis in the Wells Report was a good attempt to seek the truth, however, it was based on data that are simply insufficient. In experimental science to reach a meaningful conclusion we make measurements multiple times under well-defined physical conditions. This is how we deal with the error or ‘spread’ of measured values,” MacKinnon notes.

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Sally Jenkins wrote:The AEI analysis suggests that NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith was right when he said the Wells report “delivered exactly what the client wanted.” It suggests that this wasn’t an investigation; it was a frame job by the commissioner’s office desperate to re-establish its authority.
So the commissioner had it in for Bob Kraft and the Patriots? I thought they were friends.



Here's what Steve Metcalf wrote in what I linked to earlier:
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sp ... _over.html

The Patriots are the victims of a witch hunt: To believe this, you have to believe the sport’s commissioner, Roger Goodell is intent on singling out the franchise, painting it in the worst possible light and, while rallying the media and the public to his side, excessively punishing it simply for being smarter, better coached, and more disciplined. To believe that, you have to ignore ample evidence that Goodell’s interests lay in precisely the opposite direction, starting with his one-time friendship with Patriots owner Robert Kraft.

Here is how Sports Illustrated recently described the relationship between Kraft and Goodell:
Kraft in many ways made NFL commissioner Roger Goodell. Kraft helped push through Goodell’s election in 2006. Five years later, Kraft left his ailing wife, Myra, to convince the players that Goodell, who was widely despised, and the league could be trusted in negotiations for a new collective bargaining agreement. Kraft helped promote and justify Goodell’s salary increase from $11.5 million before the 2011 lockout to an average of $37 million over the last two fiscal years. And in the wake of last year’s Ray Rice debacle, Goodell’s darkest hour, Kraft defended Goodell to the public and worked behind the scenes to make sure other owners remained loyal to the embattled commissioner.
As the article goes on to note, the Pats “generated the most complaints to the Competition Committee during the Bill Belichick era, and many team executives felt the issues raised were swept under the rug.” As Seattle Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman colorfully pointed out before his team faced the Patriots in the Super Bowl, Goodell was a guest at Kraft’s Brookline home the very day of the deflategate game. As GQ reported, one NFL executive even nicknamed Kraft “the assistant commissioner.”
And despite all this support and generosity from Kraft toward Goodell, he wanted to frame up and punish his team?
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Anaxagoras wrote:So the commissioner had it in for Bob Kraft and the Patriots? I thought they were friends.
Father: Why do you cry, Artie?

Art: I-I fell and my friends skated away w-without me.

Father: Friends? Your friends? . . . If you lock them together in a room with no food for a week. . . . . . . THEN you could see what it is, friends!

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Herr Goodel has 31 other "friends" to deal with.

As for the rest, Pats critic Michael Florio is laughing at your man who cannot explain why the Commissioner's office lied about the original pressures of the balls--which you quoted, or maybe it was Gram, is there a difference? Other than you have a Wifu and kinder and he lives on a "compound" off of the I-10?--and never corrected until the Wells Report. There was the letter to the Pats from the NFL that included the erroneous claims--which they knew were erroneous. Et cetera. There are people in the NFL who have it "in" for the Pats--like the former Jets GM--there are a lot of them--who is still butt-hurt over Dark Hoodie leaving the coaching job after 24 hours when he took a good look at the sickness. He profanely boasted during the AFC that the Pats were "fucked" over the balls.

There are fan boys in the NFL offices probably for most teams. The main bias that Herr Goodell has for the Patriots is his hatred for Belichick which is not at all hidden. For his part, Dark Hoodie is not one to conceal his contempt for fools, and he has never concealed his contempt for Herr Goodell--"the Geniuses in the league offices" and the like. Oddly, oddly enough, too many Fan Boys from Pats, Jets, and the like sort of assume he hates Sexy Rexy Ryan. They forget he benched "Wes Weckler" for a series in a playoff game for going after Sexy Rexy's Wifu's feet.

Bottom Line: It will go to court.

Whatever happens, Goodel will claim to his 31 Friends that he "slapped the Pats!" and then collect his multi-million dollar bonus. Even if the Feds slam him, nay ass-rape him--as they have in the past--he will shrug his shoulders, point to the profit margin, and his 31 Friends who have teams that cannot win as well will wish he won. "Good on ya!" It will be as silly as Indy watching the Pats hang another 30+ on them in a second half then drafting a receiver because the Pats would NEVER run on them with impunity a FIFTH time!

It is as simple as that.

Just as it is "more probable than not" that he saw the Ray Rice video and did . . . nothing.

Incidentally, that is a major sticking point for players: Herr Goodell does not hold himself or the owners to the same standards he holds players. Granted, Goodell knows which side his ass is buttered on: he is not employed by the players. Something I never liked: commissioners should work for both owners and players, but that is Νεφελοκοκκυγία [Stop that!--Ed.] "Cloud Cuckoo Land."

--J.D.
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Re: Deflategate

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So they're the Goodelfellas or what?
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They're definitely friends of ours.
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Re: Deflategate

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Tom Brady's 4-game suspension in Deflategate upheld by Goodell

No one is surprised.
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the phone was actually destroyed by Lindsey Graham.
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. . . and it is just confirmed that Brady is taking it to federal court.

Quelle surprise.

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Re: Deflategate

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Just think, Brady would have only gotten a two game suspension if he had destroyed the phone by assaulting Gisele with it.
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Re: Deflategate

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Tiosylanyl wrote:Just think, Brady would have only gotten a two game suspension if he had destroyed the phone by assaulting Gisele with it.
That's fucked up and I am thieving this.