Other music

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:57 pm

Now, if you prefer the Japanese Original:

– J.D.

asthmatic camel · Post by **asthmatic camel** » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:36 pm

Seeing as we're all spending a few weeks in the box, here's one of my all-time favourite albums from Tangerine Dream...

asthmatic camel · Post by **asthmatic camel** » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:40 pm

Another favourite for the Psi-rockers...

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:49 am

Anaxagoras wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:30 am Bach on an 8-string guitar?

Nothing to do with the guitar nor the technical abilities of the player, but he drags Bach, kicking and screaming, into the Romantic period. It hurts.

Contrast with this, just the way to play the ornaments, vary the rhythm, &c.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:20 am

– J. "Get the Fuck in the Mecha and Stop Groping Your Mom!" D.

asthmatic camel · Post by **asthmatic camel** » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:42 pm

Seems apt.

asthmatic camel · Post by **asthmatic camel** » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:47 pm

And this...

asthmatic camel · Post by **asthmatic camel** » Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:08 pm

asthmatic camel · Post by **asthmatic camel** » Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:26 pm

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:13 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:27 pm Bach wrote quite a bit of music for guitar.

Not one piece. Note that I'd be delighted to be proven wrong. :)
"Wrote … for guitar" that's not "there exist transcriptions for guitar".

Abdul Alhazred wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:27 pm It's a very old instrument.

Undoubtedly, but the Renaissance & Baroque guitars are very different beasts form the modern "Spanish" one.

Abdul Alhazred wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:27 pm Very likely some of this was written for the lute

Even this is at least dubious nowadays. There seems to be a consensus that Bach's "lute" pieces were in fact for the Lautenwerck, a keyboard instrument, kind of clavicembalo with gut strings. Bach owned three of these.

Abdul Alhazred wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:27 pm but it sounds good on guitar.

Not always. My gripe was that one doesn't play baroque with romantic mannerisms.

I could provide documentation & examples, but don't want to bore the gentle audience.

Here's a baroque guitar:

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:34 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:28 am Show off. :P

Happens to be one of my centers of interest – in case you haven't already noticed. :mrgreen:

Rob Lister · Post by **Rob Lister** » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:49 am

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:00 pm

There are entire series on YT where hip cool young music dudes listen to old (but great) musical pieces, and react to them

Same with young kids

An old fart like us will find them enjoyable

Example below

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:01 pm

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:01 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:08 pm Authenticity is overrated.

Alternative interpretation: some people just don't care, or even don't perceive, more or less subtle differences. Extreme example: one of my friends was completely tone deaf and never listened to music.
But I'm quite sure you have your own centers of interest where even small differences matter. :)

Abdul Alhazred wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:08 pm I bet you're not too cool to enjoy this selection. :)

Of course not. I met Hoppy Smith some decades ago, great musician. Here he plays the baroque guitar:

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:55 pm

As I mentioned the Lautenwerk:

Comparison point, early Glenn Gould:

Hotarubi · Post by **Hotarubi** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:26 pm

Doctor X wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:57 pm

Now, if you prefer the Japanese Original:

– J.D.

If I was that dude I'd be embarrassed to leave that video up.

Anaxagoras · Post by **Anaxagoras** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:22 pm

It has a kinda rustic charm. You can hear farm animals in the background, and there seems to be a cat perched on a log behind him.

Rob Lister · Post by **Rob Lister** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:35 pm

what is that 7-string machine?

ed · Post by ed » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:59 pm

robinson wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:01 pm

Well, how can you not love Tull? I'm sure there are people who are "above" anything that is that good (you know who you are, Abdul).
But the guy's face at 6:30 when Ian starts with the flute is priceless? He's like WTF???!!!?!

Berlin Addressbook 001.JPG

Thanks for that.

ed · Post by ed » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:00 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:42 pm I'm guessing Witness will appreciate ...

Looks like a member of the Gay Men's Health Alliance Marching Band
^^^^^^^^^^ That's funny stuff right there^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:10 am

Rob Lister wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:35 pm what is that 7-string machine?

A saz (or bağlama), played from the Balkans to Iraq and Syria, but typically Turkish. One of the vast family of long-necked lutes.

https://i.imgur.com/XvDy9cw.jpg

As popular as the guitar and used in all forms of music, classical Ottoman, folk and even (electrified) by rock bands.

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:23 am

Anaxagoras wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:22 pm It has a kinda rustic charm. You can hear farm animals in the background, and there seems to be a cat perched on a log behind him.

Very cool, thanks Anax.

I've never heard the saz played that way, nor in such a Western-sounding scale.

Most of the time it sounds like this:

Or this:

Or tuis:

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:03 am

– J.D.

Hotarubi · Post by **Hotarubi** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:07 pm

Doctor X wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:03 am

– J.D.

Tremendous elevated clefs.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:36 am

She is certainly not flat.

– J.D.

Hotarubi · Post by **Hotarubi** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:56 am

Doctor X wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:36 am She is certainly not flat.

– J.D.

I wonder if she'll give us a taste of Debussy.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:08 am

I think I have posted some of her professional jazz concerts.

and she just posted:

"Yet . . . I am Poor!"

– J.D.

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:48 am

Western version:

I just hope she doesn't fall from her stool. :mrgreen:

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Fri May 01, 2020 2:24 am

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Sat May 02, 2020 1:08 am

↑ An impressive musical piece. I had completely forgotten about it but rediscovered it idly thumbing through my CD collection. :)

Now for something wildly different (Central Asian blues?):

Rob Lister · Post by **Rob Lister** » Sat May 02, 2020 6:41 am

That was amazing.

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Sat May 02, 2020 10:04 pm

:mrgreen:

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Tue May 05, 2020 6:40 am

. . . because . . . I am a RIVER:

その青い目が怖いだよ！

– J.D.

Hotarubi · Post by **Hotarubi** » Thu May 07, 2020 5:07 am

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Tue May 12, 2020 10:00 pm

↑ I prefer the Japanese Bulgarian original, e. g.:

And they're not afraid from a little dissonance here or there. :mrgreen:

Hotarubi · Post by **Hotarubi** » Tue May 12, 2020 10:57 pm

Witness wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 10:00 pm ↑ I prefer the Japanese Bulgarian original, e. g.:

And they're not afraid from a little dissonance here or there. :mrgreen:

I've got that knocking around somewhere. Not sure if DcD used that as inspiration or not. Certainly Brendan and Lisa were tinkering with similar choral harmonies some years before Ivo discovered and re-released Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares and Lisa herself says she was doing that schtick since she was 13. Who knows.

Funny you should mention Japanese originals - as Kenji Kawaii used Bulgarian harmonies for part of the GitS soundtrack. I've got that knocking around somewhere too.

All have their seperate merits. All are astonishing.

Witness · Post by **Witness** » Tue May 12, 2020 11:12 pm

Hotarubi wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 10:57 pm Funny you should mention Japanese originals

I have no merit, it's a trope on this forum. :oops:

Hotarubi · Post by **Hotarubi** » Tue May 12, 2020 11:41 pm

Witness wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 11:12 pm
Hotarubi wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 10:57 pm Funny you should mention Japanese originals
I have no merit, it's a trope on this forum. :oops:

Oddly, it's not far off having merit in this instance. Both DcD and Voix Bulgares were on the same record label at around the same time. Its unlikely, but not impossible.
mrgreen: