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So forty-nine percent of the UK, including Tory, Labour, SNP, the Greens, Liberal Social Whatever the Fuck We are Crats, but not UKIP are better than her?

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In the Cabinet.
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Doctor X wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:26 am So forty-nine percent of the UK, including Tory, Labour, SNP, the Greens, Liberal Social Whatever the Fuck We are Crats, but not UKIP are better than her?

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99% (IMHO, obviously.)
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Though I did learn she told Build Large Mansions to go fuck off in Parliament so she has that going for her.

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Hope you're able to keep cool over there, AC.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62201793
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Pyrrho wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:29 am Hope you're able to keep cool over there, AC.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62201793
31C at present, pyrrho, forecast to rise to 38C later.

10 higher than I've ever known.

Luckily, my ancient house has a cellar if needed.
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One for Doctor X

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Well, to be fair, who has not forgotten a sexual predator.

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Meanwhile, in Freedom's Colonies, Tom Turgidtwat is out!

This means the next P.M. is guaranteed to be a "w."

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Yup.

We've had twelve years of the Conservatives, it's time for a change.

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Liz Truss may trail Penny Mordaunt and Rishi Sunak in the Conservative leadership race, but as the “continuity candidate” to succeed Boris Johnson, she has a hard-right base to please. To that end, she has chosen to repeat old attacks on her home and her old school. She lived and went to school in Roundhay, a leafy suburb of Leeds. I know a bit about it – I grew up there at the same time. I too went to that school.

Truss claims to have grown up in a “red wall” seat. This is not just a wilful anachronism, it is flatly untrue. Leeds North East, the constituency that contains both Roundhay school and the tall stone houses in which Truss and I grew up, was Conservative from 1955 to 1997 – by which time Truss had graduated from Oxford.

But I think Truss’s claims about her school and schooling, which got her to Merton college to study philosophy, politics and economics, are a more serious matter. Roundhay school is a coeducational comprehensive. I went there at 13. It has grown to include a primary campus, but it still sits amid great green oceans of fields marked out for football, rugby and hockey. Its buildings, put up a century ago, are grand. If Truss were to say that when we were there in the early 1990s, those buildings were neglected and falling apart, she would be correct.

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But to do so would be to draw attention to the fact that when we were at Roundhay, Conservatives controlled education policy and spending, and how when the school was rebuilt, Labour did. The history of the school’s official rating also tells such a tale, from “satisfactory” under the Conservatives to “outstanding” under Labour.

Still, this is not 1992 or 2002 or even 2012. It is 2022, when the candidates to lead the Conservative party of Boris Johnson seem untroubled by truth. Truss left Roundhay in 1993. I left in 1996. Simply put, we were both taught well by the same good teachers, from whose work I have benefited every single day since I left the school – as I am sure Truss has too. Nonetheless, in December 2020, Truss said: “While we were taught about racism and sexism, there was too little time spent making sure everyone could read and write.”

That’s risible. We were not “taught about racism and sexism” to the exclusion of the basics. We were taught the national curriculum. From what I remember, periods of PSE – personal and social education – were mostly spent catching up on work for other subjects or shooting the breeze with the teacher.

The school had problems with racism and sexism, for sure. Which school doesn’t? Roundhay sits on a hill. Climb that hill and you see tall stone houses, a cricket club, a huge urban park – the privileged, largely white neighbourhood where Truss and I grew up. Go down the hill and you are soon in Harehills, Gipton and Chapeltown: much less privileged, much less white. Sometimes there were tensions or clashes between kids from up or down the hill, between Black, brown or white kids, or between kids within whichever group. Most of the time there were not. The school rugby team I played for was very mixed, and everyone worked for each other.

This week, introducing her proposed economic policy, Truss doubled down on Roundhay school, where she apparently saw “children who failed and were let down by low expectations”. Perhaps she did. But perhaps she would have seen children failing or being let down wherever she went to school: city or country, state or private, satisfactory or outstanding. Perhaps she is selectively deploying her upbringing, and casually traducing the school and teachers who nurtured her, for simple political gain.

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I’m furious, obviously. So are other Roundhay alumni. Here are some of their thoughts. A friend in my year, who also went into politics, says: “It’s a nonsense. To the extent that we were ‘let down’ it was because we were being taught in a building in such a state of disrepair that you could put your fingers through the window frames. Funding, not low expectations, was the problem.”

Another friend who, like Truss, received an education at Roundhay that helped win an Oxbridge place, added: “She made it to Oxford – if people still think that’s worth something – and is in the running to be the world’s worst prime minister no 2. So how bad can it have been?”

“Truss is basically someone with a massive chip on her shoulder who can’t work out what tribe she’s in,” said another friend, from the year below me. “She used to describe herself as brought up in ‘Yorkshire’ (county fairs, moorland, Geoff Boycott), to curry favour with the rural upper-middle classes she wants to be part of in Norfolk. She now claims to be from a Ken Loach film, T’Red Wall, in the hope that the 2019 intake of Conservative MPs will like her, or more importantly for her, accept her.”

We are aggrieved. Another who was there in the time of Truss explains why: “These comments are particularly disrespectful to a brilliant team of teachers. My mum worked long hours in a specialist learning unit at Roundhay, helping provide extra support to allow pupils with learning difficulties the same opportunities as their classmates. This was one of very few such services to be provided in schooling at the time, one of the first of its kind. Far from being a school that ‘failed’ students, Roundhay was and still is a great source of pride.”

That’s much more than can be said of Truss, don’t you think?
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If there were a viable alternative I might agree with you.
Have you not seen the opposition A_C? Srsly?

As I mentioned to some other idiot on this board when Cameron resigned, all Labour had to do was stfu and let the Tories wreck themselves. They couldn't do it. And they remain (LOLZ) far more a bunch of unelectable turds than the tories. Still.

Their policies, like Biden tugging one out over the remake of the railway children, are akin to masturbating themselves into unconsciousness over a badly regurgitated past that was shit to start with.

That analogy sounded great in my head, and probably still is because its me.
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Hotarubi wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:37 pmIf there were a viable alternative I might agree with you.
Have you not seen the opposition A_C? Srsly?
That.

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I know that.



Now.
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Stanley always inserts a Frobisher & Gleason ice lolly, don't you, Stanley.
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Anyone who's ever mistakenly picked up a tube of Fiery Jack deep heat muscle rub when they were reaching for their haemorrhoid cream, will tell you that an ice lolly up the arse is not always a bad thing.
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You usually have to pay extra for that.





Or so I have read.

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Why.

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She actually posted that . . . as if . . . it helps?

Wow.

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Meanwhile, the alternative:
Anti-Semitism used as factional weapon within Labour, says report

Labour's left and right wings both treated the issue of anti-Semitism as a "factional weapon" when Jeremy Corbyn was leader, a report says.

Martin Forde QC's inquiry finds general "toxicity" existed between Mr Corbyn's office and staff at party HQ.

And he says the opposing groups used the issue of anti-Semitism as a weapon during their arguments, rather than confront the issue.

["Snip!" – Ed.]

But Mr Forde's report says factionalism was "endemic" within Labour and the issue of anti-Semitism was weaponised by both sides, not just the party's right.

"The evidence clearly demonstrated that a vociferous faction in the party sees any issues regarding anti-Semitism as exaggerated by the right to embarrass the left," it says.

"It was of course also true that some opponents of Jeremy Corbyn saw the issue of anti-Semitism as a means of attacking him.

["Snip!" – Ed.]

The report also criticises a "culture of intellectual smugness which exists at the extremes of the political spectrum" of Labour opinion.

Bugger'd by Colonists
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Beer ('n' curry) Starmer is now in control and has made real progress in ridding the party of the destructive factionalism and unacceptable culture that did so much damage previously and contributed to our [general election] defeat in 2019."
What...like letting an anti-semite back into the party?
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Sir Cement Head forgot.

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P.S. Worked for Boris the Slider.

P.P.S. Wait . . . no!
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Why does anyone care what Dominick Cummings thinks about anything?

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Doctor X wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:51 pm Why does anyone care what Dominick Cummings thinks about anything?

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Everyone except the stupid over here knows exactly what he is. A bad loser who can't take responsibility for his failures and has thrown a months-long tantrum when he got caught.

Comparisons to kittehkaren are well made.
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His hang wringing over ethics prove laughable.

I wondered if he was just the British Avenatti without the porn stars and fraud convictions.

So he blames The Black People for everything wrong in the UK?

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Doctor X wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:29 pm His hang wringing over ethics prove laughable.

I wondered if he was just the British Avenatti without the porn stars and fraud convictions.

So he blames The Black People for everything wrong in the UK?

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I'm unaware of kitteh's thoughts on brexit.
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She claims it causes cancer.

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Doctor X wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:46 pm She claims it causes cancer.

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Uterine cancer?
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No, the cancer is gender fluid.

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Aaand now it's time for the Conservative Party's 160,000 Daily Mail and Daily Torygraph reading members, 0.26% of the population, to decide who should be the next prime minister.

I'm so glad I live in a democracy.
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Could be worse.

Could be Labour.

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At least there is a process with candidates.

Unlike the last time this happened with Labour.

Too soon?
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MEANIE!

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Hotarubi wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:03 am At least there is a process with candidates.

Unlike the last time this happened with Labour.

Too soon?
The system is suckalicious.
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You can always throw away your vote on whatever the fuck the Liberal Social Democrats are these days . . .

. . .

. . . because we all know you are not going Green.

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I am quite Green, it's just that voting Green under the current system is another way to throw away my vote.
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You could then vote SNP.








What?

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