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Yeah well whatever.

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la- ... story.html
Federal prosecutors on Tuesday indicted dozens of people — including actresses Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin — in connection with an elaborate scheme aimed at getting students into elite colleges.

Below is a charging document in the investigation:
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Helps with the points shaving when the player can't play, kid.
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Meh. They'll buy their way out of it.
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The College Admissions Scam Shows How Parents Duped Their Kids, Too

Often the kids themselves would be none the wiser. They'd go take a test, hand it in, and then someone on the inside would either correct it or substitute a different test from with correct answers.
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There are weird points in all that:
1. Usually (here at least) you get your corrected test back, to learn from it, and to check that you have been fairly evaluated and without errors. So how could they hide the tampering from the students themselves?
2. Getting a weak student into a demanding school is a recipe for disaster, can't see that work apart from getting some kind of fake diploma at the end.

What am I missing? :?
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Witness wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:21 am There are weird points in all that:
1. Usually (here at least) you get your corrected test back, to learn from it, and to check that you have been fairly evaluated and without errors. So how could they hide the tampering from the students themselves?
2. Getting a weak student into a demanding school is a recipe for disaster, can't see that work apart from getting some kind of fake diploma at the end.

What am I missing? :?
I don't think the first point is actually an issue with the ACT or SAT. I took mine decades ago but I don't remember anything like that. You got your results back but not the test itself. If memory serves.

The second point is what the article is about. However you could make the same argument about affirmative action. And the same parents could hire tutors or something if their kids struggle in college.
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The Most Bizarre Details From the College Cheating Scandal

So it wasn't just cheating on the SAT or ACT tests, it went beyond that. In some cases they went for athletic scholarships, for non-athletes (curious). This involved either photoshop or in one case at least setting up a fake water polo scene.





Then there's this:
After all that, Loughlin’s daughter apparently doesn’t even care about school in the first place.

Loughlin and her husband, Mossimo Giannulli, allegedly “agreed to pay bribes totaling $500,000 in exchange for having their two daughters designated as recruits to the USC crew team,” though neither of their two daughters participated in crew. It seems to have been sort of a waste of money, though, since one daughter, Olivia Gianulli, a beauty vlogger who goes by Olivia Jade, was criticized this summer for saying in a video that she doesn’t know “how much of school I’m gonna attend,” as Yahoo! reports.

She explained in a video that the first week of school she would be in Fiji for a shoot, and doing all this traveling for work, “but I’m gonna go in and talk to my deans and everyone, and hope that I can try and balance it all. But I do want the experience of like game days, partying. I don’t really care about school, as you guys all know.”
So after $500,000 in bribes (and now federal charges in the bargain), the ungrateful little wretch is like, "I don’t really care about school, as you guys all know" but she does want "the experience of like game days, partying". You know, the fun parts of college, just not the studying and stuff.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:33 am The Most Bizarre Details From the College Cheating Scandal

So it wasn't just cheating on the SAT or ACT tests, it went beyond that. In some cases they went for athletic scholarships, for non-athletes (curious). This involved either photoshop or in one case at least setting up a fake water polo scene.





Then there's this:
After all that, Loughlin’s daughter apparently doesn’t even care about school in the first place.

Loughlin and her husband, Mossimo Giannulli, allegedly “agreed to pay bribes totaling $500,000 in exchange for having their two daughters designated as recruits to the USC crew team,” though neither of their two daughters participated in crew. It seems to have been sort of a waste of money, though, since one daughter, Olivia Gianulli, a beauty vlogger who goes by Olivia Jade, was criticized this summer for saying in a video that she doesn’t know “how much of school I’m gonna attend,” as Yahoo! reports.

She explained in a video that the first week of school she would be in Fiji for a shoot, and doing all this traveling for work, “but I’m gonna go in and talk to my deans and everyone, and hope that I can try and balance it all. But I do want the experience of like game days, partying. I don’t really care about school, as you guys all know.”
So after $500,000 in bribes (and now federal charges in the bargain), the ungrateful little wretch is like, "I don’t really care about school, as you guys all know" but she does want "the experience of like game days, partying". You know, the fun parts of college, just not the studying and stuff.
When you have lots of money and looks, you can be as stupid a cunt as you want.
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Lori Loughlin’s Daughter Is Reportedly Getting the Hell Away From USC
According to People, sources connected to the freshman say she has “no plans to return to USC” following the shocking college admissions bribery scandal that has indicted both of her parents. “She can’t handle anything right now,” the source adds. “She seems more and more upset every day. She just wants to stay home.”

This development comes after Jade — whose birth name is Olivia Jade Giannulli — lost a handful of sponsored-content and collaboration deals with various companies, which include Sephora, TRESemmé, and the Estée Lauder Companies. “She feels she has worked very hard to get different work deals and everything is just gone. She thought she knew what the future had in store for her, and it all just crumbled,” People’s source added.
This girl, who's had everything handed to her on a silver platter for her whole life, is suddenly waking up to find her world crumbling. She had a budding career as a "beauty vlogger" and "Instagram influencer" with sponsorship deals. Easiest job in the world and probably way more money than I'll ever make, at age 19. I'm sure she'll be OK in the end though. Daddy's still a rich bastard, and if they have any sense they should have plenty saved to fall back on.
Also Lori Loughlin will not be returning on the next season of Fuller House, and the Hallmark channel has also kicked her to the curb.
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As more than one observer quipped, the Hallmark Channel has just basically closed operations.

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I'll wait for the tearful apology on The View.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:23 am Lori Loughlin’s Daughter Is Reportedly Getting the Hell Away From USC
According to People, sources connected to the freshman say she has “no plans to return to USC” following the shocking college admissions bribery scandal that has indicted both of her parents. “She can’t handle anything right now,” the source adds. “She seems more and more upset every day. She just wants to stay home.”

This development comes after Jade — whose birth name is Olivia Jade Giannulli — lost a handful of sponsored-content and collaboration deals with various companies, which include Sephora, TRESemmé, and the Estée Lauder Companies. “She feels she has worked very hard to get different work deals and everything is just gone. She thought she knew what the future had in store for her, and it all just crumbled,” People’s source added.
This girl, who's had everything handed to her on a silver platter for her whole life, is suddenly waking up to find her world crumbling. She had a budding career as a "beauty vlogger" and "Instagram influencer" with sponsorship deals. Easiest job in the world and probably way more money than I'll ever make, at age 19. I'm sure she'll be OK in the end though. Daddy's still a rich bastard, and if they have any sense they should have plenty saved to fall back on.
Also Lori Loughlin will not be returning on the next season of Fuller House, and the Hallmark channel has also kicked her to the curb.
Stupid worthless little cunt. She can go die in a fire or get hit by a falling piano for all I care.
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Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman sued for $500bn in college cheating scam

A US mother has filed a $500bn (£375bn) lawsuit against the people charged in a university admissions scandal, claiming her son was unfairly denied placement.

Jennifer Kay Toy cited the "despicable actions" of the alleged conspirators as the reason her child was not admitted to some universities he had applied to.

A separate class action suit brought by current students has been filed against the universities named by US officials.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47577506

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$500 billion. Sounds legit.
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Hey, think big.
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Pretty good takedown here, Boss:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ls/586468/
Down, down, down she went in the FBI car, in her handcuffs and athleisure, down below Outpost, down below Lake Hollywood, down below the Dolby Theatre where she had been so many times—in a beautiful gown, with her famous husband, William H. Macy, beside her—to watch the Academy Awards, once as a nominee. All the way down to—my God!—the downest place of all: Spring Street. The federal courthouse! This was where Donald Trump was supposed to go, not Felicity Huffman. Cool your heels, defender of the downtrodden: There is no rushing through all this—the mug shot, the phone call, the hearing. And this can’t even be grist for the mill of a new devotion to the plight of American mass incarceration. You’re now Exhibit A of law enforcement finally treating rich, white Americans as unsparingly as it treats poor, black ones.

All she wanted was an even playing field for her rich, white daughter! All she wanted was a few hundred SAT points so the girl didn’t get lost in the madness that has made college admissions so stressful, so insane, so broken, so unfair. “We’re talking about Georgetown,” Macy informed Singer about their hopes for their younger daughter. Fortunately for them, and for the younger daughter—and possibly for Georgetown itself—they had not employed him to work on this goal before the indictments were handed down. Fortunately for Macy (who seems to have taken a modified Parent B position), only Huffman has been indicted in the scheme.

Huffman, like all of the other indicted parents, was expressing an attitude I first encountered not in the great books, but in the Charlie Brown Christmas special, when Sally dictates her endless list of toys to Charlie. “All I want is what I have coming to me,” she tells him; “all I want is my fair share.”
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From a month ago:

Link:

(Video at the link.)
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-yale-d ... 1552588402
The tipster who led federal authorities to the biggest college-admissions scam they have ever prosecuted was Morrie Tobin, a Los Angeles financial executive who was being investigated in a securities fraud case, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

Mr. Tobin was being questioned in an alleged pump-and-dump investment scheme—in which people conspire to inflate the price of a stock so they can sell it at a profit—when he offered a tip to federal authorities in an effort to obtain leniency.
Who else? What a ballbuster.
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Fuckin' rat!
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A new "scam" or just creative gaming of the system?

Parents Are Giving Up Custody of Their Kids to Get Need-Based College Financial Aid
Dozens of suburban Chicago families, perhaps many more, have been exploiting a legal loophole to win their children need-based college financial aid and scholarships they would not otherwise receive, court records and interviews show.

Coming months after the national “Varsity Blues” college admissions scandal, this tactic also appears to involve families attempting to gain an advantage in an increasingly competitive and expensive college admissions system.

Parents are giving up legal guardianship of their children during their junior or senior year in high school to someone else — a friend, aunt, cousin or grandparent. The guardianship status then allows the students to declare themselves financially independent of their families so they can qualify for federal, state and university aid, a ProPublica Illinois investigation found.

“It’s a scam,” said Andy Borst, director of undergraduate admissions at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. “Wealthy families are manipulating the financial aid process to be eligible for financial aid they would not be otherwise eligible for. They are taking away opportunities from families that really need it.”
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:07 pm It's not about "education" or colleges in general, it's about getting a shot at joining the ruling class.

Who already cheat merely by being ruling class.
You are right. We should level the playing field so that EVERYONE is a member of the ruing class.

I will take on the burden of performing this service, Me and my team of nubile acolytes. We will work diligently to make everyone equal and our requirements are simple. Allow me to make up the laws necessary for this actualization of proletarian elevation. I promise I will not abuse my authority. Naturally, this will be a complicated process and the inner workings of it must remain secret. I will need a small police force for security. Since I AM the people, in effect, there is not need for anyone to possess weapons of any sort. We will be going door to door to collect them and if you are not sure if you have any we will help you look for them.

We will make various drugs legal and freely available. The motto of our new world order will be:

proletarian elevation thru stupification
I know making everyone the same has been tried before but not like this. This time it will work because I can be trusted. See? I said it.
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This is just a book review by George Will, but I enjoyed it:

A Parable of ‘Privilege-Hoarding’
It is not easy being an affluent progressive and a scourge of privilege.
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Did anyone ever go to jail over this?
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California woman gets three weeks of prison in college admissions scandal

Felicity Huffman Behind Bars; Surrenders To Authorities For Prison College Admissions Scandal Sentence [14 days]
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OMG, the suffering, the horror, the horror
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robinson wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:29 pm OMG, the suffering, the horror, the horror
Felicity Huffman released from prison early, served 11 days of two-week sentence
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/f ... ence-early
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Some cases are still pending. Those who pled guilty, like Felicity Huffman, have already served their sentences, but for those who didn't, they added more charges like money laundering. Those cases could take months or years to resolve. I think Lori Loughlin's case is still pending.

There's a table here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_coll ... ry_scandal

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ac ... l-n1070111
Actress Lori Loughlin and husband facing additional charges in college admissions scandal

Actress Lori Loughlin and 10 other parents accused in a massive college admissions scandal are facing additional charges, the Department of Justice announced Tuesday.

A grand jury in the District of Massachusetts brought the new charges against 11 of the 15 parents charged in the case, including Loughlin and her fashion designer husband, Mossimo Giannulli.

Loughlin and the 10 other parents facing new charges have pleaded not guilty to the previous charges in the alleged scheme.
Ultimately they could spend more time in jail than Huffman and others who took the plea deal.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:42 pm Ultimately they could spend more time in jail than Huffman and others who took the plea deal.
Isn't the whole idea of plea deal to limit damage (when you know you're toast, of course) while easing the judge's work?
That process always seemed weird to me.
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Witness wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:12 pm
Anaxagoras wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:42 pm Ultimately they could spend more time in jail than Huffman and others who took the plea deal.
Isn't the whole idea of plea deal to limit damage (when you know you're toast, of course) while easing the judge's work?
That process always seemed weird to me.
That's the idea, yes.
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Witness wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:12 pm
Anaxagoras wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:42 pm Ultimately they could spend more time in jail than Huffman and others who took the plea deal.
Isn't the whole idea of plea deal to limit damage (when you know you're toast, of course) while easing the judge's work?
That process always seemed weird to me.

Plea bargaining is more about trading reduced charges and a recommendation by the prosecutor to the judge for a reduced sentence in exchange for making the prosector’s life easier. Judges like plea deals too, and thus will usually go along with the prosecutor’s sentencing recommendations. But prosecutors benefit more.

When you realize that only five to ten percent of all criminal cases go to trial (the rest either get dismissed or a plea deal), you understand that the prosecutors can’t try every case. Going from five percent to ten percent trials would nearly double their work load. When prosecutors were being dicks, the only real leverage we had in the PD’s office was “No more pleas. All our clients want jury trials.”

It rarely came to that. Usually the mere threat was enough. I didn’t like it myself, since it meant individual clients would get slammed. And everyone usually understood what was reasonable. But occasionally prosecutors would try to play hardball for as long as they could (usually new prosecutors). I never saw it last. Not only was it an impossible work load, the judges would get pissed off and start leaning on them, too.
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If you care, and if you can get past the paywall, the New York Times did a follow up story on what actually happened to the people arrested and their children.

What happened to the students caught up in the college admissions scandal? - The New York Times
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Feels like news from another era, but the wheels of justice turn slowly for the rich and famous.

Lori Loughlin: US actress to plead guilty in college cheating scam
US actress Lori Loughlin, of the sitcom Full House, and her husband, designer Mossimo Giuannulli, will plead guilty to college admissions scam charges.
They are among 50 people charged in an alleged criminal enterprise to get their children into top US schools.
The couple had initially pleaded not guilty to the fraud charges.
Officials say they have agreed to a plea deal of prison time, a fine, and community service under supervised release.
According to the District Attorneys office in Massachusetts, Ms Loughlin will plead guilty to conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud "on a date to be specified by the Court".
Mr Giannulli will plead guilty to the same, plus one count of honest services wire and mail fraud.
Prosecutors had said Ms Loughlin and Mr Giannulli paid $500,000 (£408,000) in bribes to have their two daughters admitted into the University of Southern California (USC) as fake rowing-team recruits.
Under the terms of the deal, Ms Loughlin will serve two months in prison, pay $150,000 in fines, have two years of supervised release and complete 100 hours of community service.
Her husband's sentence is similar: he will serve five months in prison, pay $250,000 and must complete 250 hours of community service.
The pair will bring the total number of parents pleading guilty in the scam to 24.
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Maybe they can get prison lifestyle tips from Martha Stewart.
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Poor Martha. Her mistake was talking to the FBI. (or SEC or something.)

If only she had friends in high places like Flynn.
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