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Since summer I have been reading the Dune series. The original six Frank Herbert novels, plus the two sequels written by his son. FINALLY finished the last one today (Sandworms of Dune).

It is going to almost be weird to be reading about people not named Atreides, Harkonnen, etc. There are the bazillion inferior prequels that Brian Herbert wrote, but nah.

Anyhoo, it's going to be a big year for Dune, there is another film adaption of it coming out in December, and it is getting a lot of positive buzz. So this is the place for all things Dune.
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First time reading? Or rereading them?
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Can't say I thought much of the Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson efforts but I had to read them just in case.
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robinson wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:34 am First time reading? Or rereading them?


Re-reading the originals. First time for the Brian Herbert sequels
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:48 pm Is there a fandom faction that is pissy about the sequels? :)
Not that I'm aware of. However, I belong to a few SciFi fan groups and folks are generally in agreement that they are definitely lacking in lustre.
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They actually suck IMNsHO
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They actually do.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:48 pm Is there a fandom faction that is pissy about the sequels? :)

Pissy? No. But it’s rare to find anyone who will admit to liking them. I thought they were “meh”. No worse than the last couple of original books, but that’s a low bar.

I think they had the elements of a good story, but failed in execution. Too much telling, not enough showing and the end was the most egregious Deus Ex Machina I have ever seen
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But if you want pissy, there IS a rumor that a minor character (Liet Kynes) is going to be gender swapped in the upcoming movie and it’s confirmed that the Fremen will, gasp, be played mostly by black actors. And there are sine pissy people over those things
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asthmatic camel wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:04 pm Can't say I thought much of the Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson efforts but I had to read them just in case.

Same here. Frank had the fucking temerity to die after leaving the series on a cliffhanger. I wanted to read SOME resolution to that, even a shitty one
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Nyarlathotep wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:59 pm But if you want pissy, there IS a rumor that a minor character (Liet Kynes) is going to be gender swapped in the upcoming movie and it’s confirmed that the Fremen will, gasp, be played mostly by black actors. And there are sine pissy people over those things
That doesn't bode well. Kinda like Peter Jackson trying to "improve" TLOR & The Hobbit. Let me know how it goes so I don't waste any time or money.
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asthmatic camel wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:29 am
Nyarlathotep wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:59 pm But if you want pissy, there IS a rumor that a minor character (Liet Kynes) is going to be gender swapped in the upcoming movie and it’s confirmed that the Fremen will, gasp, be played mostly by black actors. And there are sine pissy people over those things
That doesn't bode well. Kinda like Peter Jackson trying to "improve" TLOR & The Hobbit. Let me know how it goes so I don't waste any time or money.
I don't have a problem with it. There is nothing about Kynes that requires him to be male. And as for the Fremen, while I never pictured them as black, I always pictured them as basically Space Arabs, so it isn't much of a stretch to make them a shade or two darker.
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I'd say there's quite a lot that requires Kynes to be male, especially as leader of a Space Arab nation. Oh well, I don't have to watch it. :)
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asthmatic camel wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:55 am I'd say there's quite a lot that requires Kynes to be male, especially as leader of a Space Arab nation. Oh well, I don't have to watch it. :)

Kynes dies about a third of the way through the book. He almost doesn't even need to exist
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Trailer is out for the new movie.

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Where is Ben Gazzara?

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Go check the Tumbrel of Missed Opportunity.



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Weell that was dark
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Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:53 am Trailer is out for the new movie.

Pink Floyd backing track. Might give it a look. :)
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Not nearly as stylish as David Lynch's version. Did it really need a remake?
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It’s going to be awesome
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Finally!
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I ask again, ... consider it asked, AGAIN!!
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DUNE and the 5 other Dune books will always be remade
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I’m waiting for Chapterhouse DUNE

Duncan and Teg deserve a movie
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The fight scenes alone would be fucking awesome cubed
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Evasion noted.
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And then there is Murbella
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ed wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:51 am Not nearly as stylish as David Lynch's version. Did it really need a remake?
The special effects and fight choreography in that movie seem rather dated by today's standards.
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That’s being kind
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Frank Herbert himself was involved in producing the David Lynch version.

Evidences.

It's not a bad effort considering the tech available at the time.
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robinson wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:48 pm I’m waiting for Chapterhouse DUNE

Duncan and Teg deserve a movie
Teg's batman, Burzmali deserves a mention, too.
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Oh man, don’t get me started
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I was actually thinking of Heretics

That’s the one with Teg gaining super speed

That shit was actually awesome
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The slaughter of the Matres and the space battles can now be done justice with CGI

Also the God Emperor shit can be done now
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Because it is sort of just background, the space battles are overlooked

Also the planet destruction of Dune
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robinson, have you read the Pandora trilogy which Herbert wrote in collaboration with Bill Ransom? They're sequels to Herbert's Destination Void, which isn't an easy read. Enormously enjoyable. :)

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Yes

Multiple times
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I’ve read everything Herbert wrote

He is one of my favorite authors
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Same here. More of a fantasy writer than the "hard SciFi" writers I really like but he gets a pass because he was so clever. :)