How?

Get their minds right...for their own good.
robinson
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Re: How?

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Arguing/discussing shit on the internet is almost always a huge waste of time

But, sometimes I learn some me things new and valuable from “the enemy”

Especially when it’s a subject I don’t know much about

Most people won’t lift a finger to help you out online, but goddamn, if you are appearing to challenge their pet belief, or worse, something they are an expert in, they will move heaven and earth to prove you are wrong
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Re: How?

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Many people don’t even know how to do an analysis of facts to form a judgment.

They simply never were taught how. The rational, skeptical, unbiased analysis, or evaluation of factual evidence isn’t even a thing to them. The very idea of self-directed, self-disciplined, self-monitored, and self-corrective thinking just doesn’t exist. Much less rigorous standards of excellence and mindful command of one’s own thinking. Even if one does consider it important, as valuable, using effective communication and problem-solving abilities as well as a commitment to overcome native egocentrism and sociocentrism isn’t something one just acquired by chance.

Hell, if anybody actually reads that above, it probably sounds like nonsense to them
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Re: How?

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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:39 pm Um OK.

Who are you addressing?
That cartoon stereotype Indian over there?
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Re: How?

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robinson wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:18 pm Arguing/discussing shit on the internet is almost always a huge waste of time

But, sometimes I learn some me things new and valuable from “the enemy”

Especially when it’s a subject I don’t know much about

Most people won’t lift a finger to help you out online, but goddamn, if you are appearing to challenge their pet belief, or worse, something they are an expert in, they will move heaven and earth to prove you are wrong
So can I take this as an admission that you're full of crap when you argue? It would save me a lot of time. Or perhaps you could signal when you're trying to be serious.
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Re: How?

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You can do anything you want
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Re: How?

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Teaching metacognitive processes would be a good start.

If you go to a gym with a professional personal trainer they are not going to say 'There is the weight, go lift it X times to get better.' They are going to break down what muscles to use and how to position your body to use them so you can be efficient and safe.

I see very little difference in the mind. Its similar to a muscle in that it preforms a function but can do so in multiple ways. If your goal is cognitive ability knowing how to flex that muscle is huge.

Another big factor would be teaching people thinking traps and especially how categorical thinking can limit your understanding. If you read that last sentence and assumed what I was getting at reading the next one will start with you being more closed minded. Theres huge issues socially with that but having the ability to break free of assumptions and use lateral thought has a pretty big impact on ability for critical thinking.

If you are interested in the subject there is lots of publicly available information on formal processes think tanks use. Might also lead to some very interesting rabbit holes if your like me and when you get something to chew on you gotta dive in : )
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Re: How?

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This kid is a genius.

https://i.imgur.com/E7UPE5U.jpg