ceptimus wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:38 pm
The twin bulges thing is just an oversimplified model - it's true in essence, but then the complications of coastline, variable depth of oceans and seas, etcetera, modify the tides at any specific location in important ways.
Here's the problem, to even be able to respond to your claim.
It's not possible to even know what you are claiming is "an oversimplified model", much less to know if " it's true in essence".
There are three different "explainings" to say there are twin bulges. (and all are wrong)
There is inertia (https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education ... avity.html
There is "less pulling" (https://www.quora.com/Why-are-there-two ... -Dav%C3%A9
And there is "centrifugal force" (https://scienceblogs.com/startswithaban ... g-the-moon
And to make it worse, some "explainings" combine them all (https://noc.ac.uk/files/documents/busin ... nation.pdf
There are hundreds of other examples online. They are all wrong, even if you use a hypothetical planet that is all ocean, and deep enough oceans to allow a tide to keep up with the moon.
Laplace explained all of this in 1775, and it has all been confirmed by direct measurement of the real oceans.
The lunar influence does not cause twin bulges, neither does the solar influence cause two different bulges. The model", for whatever reason is used to try and say there are two bulges, is completely wrong. It's wrong for whatever reason is used.
The mind fuck part, is that most bulge believers read that, and think it means the gravitational effect isn't real, which is not what it means.
It can't be made any simpler.
Most die hard believers can understand that if the moon was on a long tower, so it did not orbit, and the earth did not spin, there would be a bulge towards the moon, underneath the tower, because of gravity.
But there would not be a bulge on the other side of the planet.
Most can understand this. But somehow, when the earth and moon are moving, gravity is completely different, and there is now a second bulge opposite the moon. Which is absolutely not true.
There is no second ocean bulge, for any reason. In fact, there is no bulge under the moon either. Newton was wrong. That is not how it works.
I'm not exaggerating when I say people almost lose their minds over this.