Science shows inexpensive medicine works

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Link to the article cited in the FTCCC Alliance statement:

https://journals.lww.com/americantherap ... the.4.aspx

The journal recently posted a letter from the authors, with changes to some of the figures because of the retraction of one of the sources they cited in their article:

https://journals.lww.com/americantherap ... ata.9.aspx
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In at least one of the studies done in Argentina, which are cited in the article above, there are serious concerns about the data.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/st ... spect-data

I don't know how that would affect the meta-analysis in the FTCCC Alliance comprehensive review, but that is not the study that was retracted.
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From Buzzfeed:
Meanwhile, the clinical trial database listing stated there were 229 participants. But other things didn’t add up. It said the control group had 72 women and 26 men, even though the paper had said 51 women and 48 men.

The ages also seemed mathematically improbable. The paper states that nearly 70% of participants taking the therapy were under age 40. Despite this, the clinical trial website states that the median age — the age at the midpoint of the group — was 42.

These might have been errors, Carvallo conceded in the interview, which was largely conducted in English. “We are not statistical people,” he said. He initially said that another researcher, Monica Lombardo, had reviewed the data, and “by passing from one hand to another, there may be a mistake.” But Lombardo, a nephrologist at CEMIC Hospital Universitario in Buenos Aires, told BuzzFeed News she was involved with neither the data collection nor analysis and played no role in the research. After being asked about this, Carvallo acknowledged that she was not involved.

In the next phase of trials, involving a total of 1,195 healthcare workers, the regimen was simplified (four doses of carrageenan a day, one 12-milligram dose of ivermectin a week), according to the paper, but the allegedly spectacular effect held steady: Zero people taking the therapy got COVID.

This, the paper reported, was true everywhere — whether among 600 healthcare workers at Hospital Dr. A. Eurnekian, 90 staffers at Hospital Municipal Ángel Marzetti, 90 workers at Hospital Cuenca Alta, or eight workers at Centro Médico Caseros. On the other hand, 58% of people in the control group got infected at a time when infections in Argentina were soaring.

Carvallo said that he, too, was surprised by this finding. “There’s no medicine that is 100% effective,” he said, but deferred to his statisticians who “found out that it was correct.” Other than Lombardo, who maintains she “had nothing to do with” the study, Carvallo did not cite any statisticians who had helped with his research.
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If only there was a country that already widely used the medicine

And everybody has access to it


Like India
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Or most of Africa
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It is almost, Pyrrho, as if Science [! – Ed.] does not care what one thinks it shows.





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Doctor X wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:59 am It is almost, Pyrrho, as if Science [! – Ed.] does not care what one thinks it shows.





Science is MEAN!

– J.D.
Peer review can be a real bitch.
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Especially when there is billions of dollars in profit involved
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I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover that pharmaceutical corporations try to profit from the treatments they develop and sell.
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https://newsrescue.com/the-undeniable-i ... -horowitz/
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robinson wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:50 pm https://newsrescue.com/the-undeniable-i ... -horowitz/
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Doctor X wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:39 pm

– J.D.
That just never gets old. :)