xouper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:37 pm
Took me two minutes to find these two:
- https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/p ... finds.html
- https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... -1.4670229
OK thanks. So there are examples, but these are just raw numbers, not per capita numbers or age-adjusted numbers as I explained earlier.
So, from your first link about Israel:
Of 514 patients in Israel hospitalized with COVID-19 as of Aug. 15, 59 percent were fully vaccinated, according to an Aug. 16 article from Science that cited national data tracked by Israel's largest health management organization. The figures suggest breakthrough infections may be more common than the term implies, the report suggests.
Most of the vaccinated patients who were hospitalized, about 87 percent, were at least 60 years old.
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The country has one of the world's highest COVID-19 vaccination levels, with about 78 percent of those ages 12 and older fully vaccinated, mostly with the Pfizer vaccine. At the same time, Israel now has one of the highest infection rates in the world, potentially a sign of waning vaccine immunity as the highly contagious delta variant spreads, Science reports.
In response, Israel began administering booster doses to people ages 60 and older July 30. The country has since expanded booster dose eligibility to Israelis who are at least 50 years old.
So if 59 percent of those in the hospital are fully vaccinated (and 87 percent of those are over 60), but 78% of the population is vaccinated, that would mean that the unvaccinated account for 22% of the population but 41% of those hospitalized. (I assume that kids under 12 account for very few, if any hospitalizations,) It still indicates that the vaccines are providing some protection, if you consider the context.
Unfortunately, the article does not really put the raw numbers in context, such as adjusting for age and per capita. It says that 87 percent of the vaccinated patients are over 60, but doesn't mention anything about the ages of the unvaccinated patients in the hospital.
There is also subsequent data from Israel that those booster shots have made a big difference:
Analysis: With boosters, masks and Green Pass, Israel sees a COVID-19 wave in retreat
Since peaking in early September, daily infections in Israel have fallen more than 80%, with severe cases nearly halved.
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The Israeli Health Ministry on Thursday presented the latest safety and effectiveness data from its booster campaign to a panel of advisers to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration considering authorization of additional booster shots.
The data show that among people over 60 - the first group to receive boosters - infections began declining rapidly about two weeks after third doses were administered, while still climbing among other age groups.
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Two months into the Delta wave, vaccinated people over the age of 60 made up more than half of severe COVID-19 cases. The majority were over 70 with health conditions that put them at higher risk.
Since administration of boosters, mostly unvaccinated, often younger, people are bearing the brunt of serious illness. They make up about 75% of hospitalized patients in severe condition, while those vaccinated with two or three shots account for a quarter of such cases.
A third dose has so far been effective in curbing severe breakthrough cases among vaccinated people age 40 and up, according to the health ministry.
So that was a snapshot in time, but since that time, with booster shots, daily infections are declining again, and the unvaccinated again make up the majority of those in the hospital, about 75%.
From the second link, again, it doesn't say anything about per capita numbers or age-controlled numbers. Nothing at all about the ages of people hospitalized.
At the end of August, 54 per cent of Covid-19 patients – or 168 patients – were fully vaccinated. Some 44 per cent were not fully vaccinated, and in 2 per cent of cases, the vaccination status was unknown.
However it does say the following:
About 90 per cent of the adult population has received a full course of vaccination, either two doses or one. People are considered fully vaccinated one week after their second dose of Pfizer vaccine, or two weeks after receiving any of the other three authorised vaccines.
So if 90 percent of the adult population has been fully vaccinated, but fully vaccinated people only account for 54% of those in the hospital, again that means that on a per capita basis, the risk is higher for the unvaccinated.