Agreed. The right thing to do is to review all of the efficacy data and all of the safety data before even thinking about authorization, and I'd want an independent advisory committee to review it, and I mean the complete data, not whatever the pharma company chooses to put into PowerPoint.
The Covid vaccines really do work
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Since kids without significant comorbidities are not dropping like Brenden’s favorability, I wonder what the indication is.
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They know what's coming, so they have to sell the narrative before the shit hits the fan
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A question that nobody seems to be considering, and they had damned well better start considering it.
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I was at the office today. Sign with instructions is just inside the entry. Must be vaccinated, must not be symptomatic, must wear a mask at all times in the office.
Several other people in the office. I was the only one wearing a mask.
Not that a mask works, mind you. It's that I was the only person following the stated rules.
Several other people in the office. I was the only one wearing a mask.
Not that a mask works, mind you. It's that I was the only person following the stated rules.
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I'm old enough to remember when Biden said if are vaccinated you don't have to wear a mask. You won't get sick. You won't spread the virus. You don't have to worry anymore.
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At least the office has free sparkling water, sodas, coffee, hot chocolate, mints, and bags of chips.
Reminds me I need to gas up the car in the morning.
Reminds me I need to gas up the car in the morning.
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Ya see, vaccines really do work unless you touch your face.
I know it's hard to never touch you face, but if you do, you are a menace, a super-spreader, and deserve to be on a ventilator or dead, or both.
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I was at the office again today. Wife of a co-worker was sick yesterday. Co-worker was in the office today. Coughing.
I went home.
I went home.
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Yeah...I was told, "We're all smart people here. (cough) We're all vaccinated and we know better than to lick doorknobs."
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If the symptoms of this new "stealth" subvariant of the omicron variant are milder than omicron, does that mean that the symptoms are milder than the average common cold?
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Vaccinated people spread the variants over most of the planet in the last year
Unvaccinated continued to not spread the virus, mostly because they were not allowed to travel
The countries that still have no virus are the ones that didn’t let anyone spread it
Unvaccinated continued to not spread the virus, mostly because they were not allowed to travel
The countries that still have no virus are the ones that didn’t let anyone spread it
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Antarctica research stations, isolated from the world, had no virus until fully vaccinated people showed up
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Today a gaggle of coworkers are literally standing in a room together for a company meeting.
I am at home.
What are the odds of several of them coming down with "it" in a couple of weeks.
I am at home.
What are the odds of several of them coming down with "it" in a couple of weeks.
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It depends on whether they touched their faces and infected themselves and then became spreaders.
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It depends on whether they touched their faces and infected themselves and then became spreaders.
Whatever you do, don't touch your face.
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Yes, it was tough giving up facepalming cold turkey but I had to for the sake of the children.
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Every time someone sneezes around me, I immediately say "Black Lives Matter!" and raise my fist to fight the man.
So far, so good. I may but a BLM t-shirt to wear under my clothes as extra protection, but I don't think it works unless the virus knows you are wearing it, so have held off.
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Have you considered transitioning to a gender-fluid womyn?
Just to be safe?
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I have, but then I'd have to update my wardrobe to something more trendy.
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Not if you were to opt for sensible shoes. :DBen Trovado wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:49 pmI have, but then I'd have to update my wardrobe to something more trendy.
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Here is the current situation in Japan.
On Jan. 1st, 2022, the numbers were:
Tested positive: 1,727,489
Discharged: 1,707,509
Active cases: 3,048
Critically ill: 53
Deaths: 18,385
As of Feb. 17th, 2022:
Tested positive: 4,283,203 (+2,555,714)
Discharged: 3,342,591 (+1,635,082)
Active cases: 839,753 (+836,705)
Critically ill: 1,482 (+1,429)
Deaths: 21,190 (+2,805)
So from the beginning of the pandemic until the start of this year, fewer people tested positive than have tested positive since Jan. 1st. The number of active cases is up by 27,551% (or 275 times), the number of critically ill is up 2,796% (or 28 times), and the number of deaths is up by 15%.
The CFR since Jan. 1st is 0.17% (new deaths/[new discharged + new deaths]).
For the period up until the end of last year, the CFR had been 1.07%. I guess we can say that the CFR is now over 6 times lower than it had been for all previous waves combined.
Caveat: I don't whether the death figures include both those who died "with" Covid and "from" Covid, as the data does not make that distinction, but even if they are included, the CFR seems to be at least 6 times lower. But since so many more people are getting infected now than in previous waves, overall deaths are up.
Obviously, this does mean that you would be hard-pressed to argue that vaccines stop or even slow the spread of Omicron, but the rate of severe disease and death per case is clearly down.
On Jan. 1st, 2022, the numbers were:
Tested positive: 1,727,489
Discharged: 1,707,509
Active cases: 3,048
Critically ill: 53
Deaths: 18,385
As of Feb. 17th, 2022:
Tested positive: 4,283,203 (+2,555,714)
Discharged: 3,342,591 (+1,635,082)
Active cases: 839,753 (+836,705)
Critically ill: 1,482 (+1,429)
Deaths: 21,190 (+2,805)
So from the beginning of the pandemic until the start of this year, fewer people tested positive than have tested positive since Jan. 1st. The number of active cases is up by 27,551% (or 275 times), the number of critically ill is up 2,796% (or 28 times), and the number of deaths is up by 15%.
The CFR since Jan. 1st is 0.17% (new deaths/[new discharged + new deaths]).
For the period up until the end of last year, the CFR had been 1.07%. I guess we can say that the CFR is now over 6 times lower than it had been for all previous waves combined.
Caveat: I don't whether the death figures include both those who died "with" Covid and "from" Covid, as the data does not make that distinction, but even if they are included, the CFR seems to be at least 6 times lower. But since so many more people are getting infected now than in previous waves, overall deaths are up.
Obviously, this does mean that you would be hard-pressed to argue that vaccines stop or even slow the spread of Omicron, but the rate of severe disease and death per case is clearly down.
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That is just going to be the problem with the presentation of the data. Some of the:Anaxagoras wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:35 amObviously, this does mean that you would be hard-pressed to argue that vaccines stop or even slow the spread of Omicron, but the rate of severe disease and death per case is clearly down.
are going to include:
- 1. Numbers of those "critically ill" from Covid – as opposed to simply positive – who were vaccinated versus those not.
2. Shit Ton of Variables Not Explained:- a. Age
b. Sex
c. Tentacles
d. Comorbidites
- a. Age
There is more, but Boss Shorty will not want it on his yard.
That being written, whilst I have seen little to no evidences – thanks – that, say, masks work, I have seen little to no evidences – th[Get on with it! – Ed.] – that the vaccines do not work. As I noted – Kindly – above, we have to define "work." Do they appear to lessen the severity of infection? Thus far, yes. Further, I have yet to receive a sound argument against the use of vaccines.
"What about my nephew's whore-bitch-girlfriend's dog's favorite park pedophile whose latest victim totes developed Ian Barry from the vaccine?!!1!!!"
Run that data, of course. Last I looked, and I invited reënlightenment to the contrary but answer from the likes of the "VACCINES CAUSE VARIANTS BECAUSE PARCHEESI" crown came there none, the risks of infection without the vaccines outweighed the risks of the vaccine by rather significant amounts. The question I have is "how young" . . . let me rephrase that . . . where does the risk of an adverse effect become significant based on the lower age? Where does the risk of infection become sufficiently significant to warrant vaccination at "dis age?"
That is not an insignificant question given that, currently, it appears people may have to have multiple boosters over time. Well, if that Annoying Shit will not experience a risk for X years, what is the point in vaccinating him and having the period of relative protection pass before X year?
Other than the joy of sticking a needle in his Annoying Shit arm and injecting a wonderfully painful bolus into it?
And why are your hands still in your pockets?
And where was Gram between February 1 and 2 in 1959?
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