Israel data and the unpleasant truth

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:14 pm

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/148 ... 16458?s=21

I can show, using the Israel data, that the vaccines not only were worthless, they made things worse.

Anyone want to make a bet before I start?

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:21 pm

THIS JUST IN: Virus known to mutate continues to mutate!

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:48 pm

So Pyrrho is already in agreement. Anyone else?

Hotarubi · Post by **Hotarubi** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:35 am

Thats....what? 14th....15th time Suzy has flipped on covid?

Tommy Palven · Post by **Tommy Palven** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:57 am

robinson wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:48 pm So Pyrrho is already in agreement. Anyone else?

Aye.

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:00 am

Hotarubi wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:35 amThats....what? 14th....15th time Suzy has flipped on covid?

Her pussy would know.

– J.D.

Hotarubi · Post by **Hotarubi** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:06 am

Doctor X wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:00 am
Hotarubi wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:35 amThats....what? 14th....15th time Suzy has flipped on covid?
Her pussy would know.

– J.D.

Looks sore.

sparks · Post by **sparks** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:24 am

Do I detect some butt-hurt there too or is it just a sore pussy?

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:27 am

sparks wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:24 amDo I detect some butt-hurt there too or is it just a sore pussy?

We should not judge which of them, Suzi or WeakPussy, prefers to "catch," goodness no!

cuntlips swallows everything uncritically, so there you go.

It must be hard, but not too hard, not hard enough to penetrate the [Stop it! – Ed.]

– J.D.

sparks · Post by **sparks** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:29 am

:lmao: :lmao:

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:08 am

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/198 ... ref=twtrec

DOUBLE-JABBED Scots are now more likely to be admitted to hospital with Covid than the unvaccinated amid an increase in elderly people falling ill due to waning immunity.

It comes amid "weird" data showing that case rates have been lower in unvaccinated individuals than the single, double, or even triple-jabbed since Omicron became the dominant variant in Scotland.

I haven't checked the other countries, but because Israel is the early and most vaccinated country, and has good data, the truth is becoming exceedingly hard to deny

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:27 pm

Talk I've seen lately is that protection after the antibodies wane involves T cell and B cell "memory" which I know nothing about. NPR has this about studies done in Merrie Olde England:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... n-efficacy

With any vaccine, the level of antibodies rises quickly right after the shot and then diminishes again with time. "That is perfectly normal and expected," she says, "So in terms of protection against infection, we will see some protection early on with a booster, but that protection is going to wane.

"Keep in mind, too, that omicron is very different than the original version of SARS-CoV-2, which is what we've been immunized against," Gommerman adds. "And so our protection takes a bit of a hit in terms of how well those antibodies can recognize omicron."

On the other hand, she says, protection against severe disease doesn't depend so heavily on antibodies. The vaccine triggers other parts of the immune system that help keep an infection from getting out of control.

I blame the hamsters.

Tommy Palven · Post by **Tommy Palven** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:27 pm

Orthodox Faucian Covidists are in denial now, and may always be, but doubts are showing among their greater membership.

It may not be long before the lesser supporters are saying "Actually, I never really believed in all that stuff Fauci was saying" and it may be soon that just like Germans will tell you that hardly any of them supported Hitler, and Albanians now say that hardly any of them supported communism, and simply just had it imposed upon them, and now no Americans ever really thought that Saddam Husein had weapons of mass destruction, it may soon be hard to find people outside Washington, DC who still admit to believing in a deadly Covid pandemic.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:23 pm

Let me clarify the situation. The data from Israel shows the vaccines did nothing to stop or even slow the deaths from Covid. But what stands out, is they led to an unbelievable increase in cases, and hospitalizations from Covd.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:27 pm

Meanwhile the data from Somalia, Nigeria, Niger, the Congo, pretty much every African country with low vaccination and a lack of health care, shows that not vaccinating led to almost no cases, and very little death.

"Why" is a different question.

And of course with African countries the data may be suspect. But Israel seems to be honest about things, and that data shows just how horribly wrong things went with the vaccines

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:18 pm

You seem to like referencing Nazis.

– J.D.

Hotarubi · Post by **Hotarubi** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:56 pm

Doctor X wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:18 pm You seem to like referencing Nazis.

– J.D.

He'll forget who he was logged in as soon.

Tommy Palven · Post by **Tommy Palven** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:14 pm

Do Covid jabs increase the chance of getting sick?
https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/19/vacci ... ing-covid/

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:16 pm

At least it is not a "Questioning the Holocaust" site.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com ... f=1&nofb=1

– J.D.

ed · Post by ed » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:31 pm

I thought that Oz had practically eliminated Covid.

Hotarubi · Post by **Hotarubi** » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:28 am

ed wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:31 pm I thought that Oz had practically eliminated Covid.

Who made that claim.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:26 am

So, nobody wants to take the bet?

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:39 am

According to the numbers, Portugal also shows a complete failure of the vaccines, which either makes no sense, or it is an unpleasant truth.

Because I have no way to know, if the numbers are accurate, one can't say anything is certain. But, if one claims "according to the numbers, Portugal data shows the vaccines didn't stop infection at all", that much is true.

Unlike Israel however, because of the death rate, reported due to Covid, the vaccines may have reduced the deaths. This is a big maybe.

Nah just kidding. The vaccines appear to have made it worse for deaths as well.

For those who simply deny before looking at any evidence, want to bet?

C'mon true believers, lets put some money on the table here.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:46 am

Portugal had a huge effort, and in June 2021 received a huge amount of vaccines, the military and a good general actually came up with a way to quickly vaccinate almost everybody. By August everybody who could get jabbed had at least one shot, and soon after, most people had two doses.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/09/23/por ... -the-world

Which is why the numbers don't make any sense.

Especially when you compare them with a country that is hardly vaccinated at all.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:49 pm

The non reaction, or the ignoring of evidence, data, is pure politics and belief systems

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:48 pm

Had Nicolas Cage made a good film?

– J.D.

Ben Trovado · Post by **Ben Trovado** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:56 pm

Doctor X wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:48 pm Had Nicolas Cage made a good film?

– J.D.

If so, more swimmers might be alive today.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:06 am

https://twitter.com/michaelpsenger/stat ... 20896?s=21

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:33 am

Ben Trovado wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:56 pm
Doctor X wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:48 pm Had Nicolas Cage made a good film?
If so, more swimmers might be alive today.

Perhaps he jumped the shark?

– J.D.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:36 am

The data from Israel shows the vaccines did nothing to stop or even slow the deaths from Covid. But what stands out, is they led to an unbelievable increase in cases, and hospitalizations from Covid-19

Defenders of the faith insist the rapid mutation is to blame, but we don’t see that in poor countries with almost no vaccination

Defenders of the MIC also claim symptoms are less, but the stats don’t include that data

I would venture that’s also a made up claim

I’m becoming very skeptical of the talking heads on the idiot box

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:43 pm

https://twitter.com/covid19crusher/stat ... 16992?s=21

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:20 pm

I mean, Con Air is great, but not for Cage. It is for Colmn(q) MEANIE, That Guy from Adaptation, and Mr. Pink.

– J.D.

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:21 pm

Hotarubi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:28 am
ed wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:31 pm I thought that Oz had practically eliminated Covid.
Who made that claim.

Carlos.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:24 pm

The woke ignore reality

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:57 pm

Pyrrho wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:21 pm
Hotarubi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:28 am
ed wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:31 pm I thought that Oz had practically eliminated Covid.
Who made that claim.
Carlos.

To be fair, Harter say he have claim.

Relax.

J&D

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:10 am

https://twitter.com/maryannedemasi/stat ... 35395?s=21

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:11 am

Doctors and actual scientist have to deal with reality to be able to solve problems

When money and politics are driving the cart, people die

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:15 am

Of course there is Ghost Rider. . . .

– J.D.

post-skeptic · Post by **post-skeptic** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:28 pm

https://i.imgur.com/oxLSZIL.jpg

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:35 pm

'80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaccinated' says Ichilov hospital director
Vaccine has "no significance regarding severe illness," says Prof. Yaakov Jerris.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/321674