The Doomsday devices and M.A.D.
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Re: The Doomsday devices and M.A.D.
A little out there but anyone ever look into HAARP?
The idea is to use concentrated radio waves targeting a portion of the atmosphere to excite it and get it to expand changing pressure. The theory is they can use it to weaponize weather by creating events, making existing ones worse or even steering hurricanes.
Kinda cool doomsday device when you start to weaponize the planet itself. There was another one on using nukes on subduction zones in an effort to release an earthquake and create tsunami's but I forget its name.
A little scary to think that a nation might be able to attack another blamelessly.
The idea is to use concentrated radio waves targeting a portion of the atmosphere to excite it and get it to expand changing pressure. The theory is they can use it to weaponize weather by creating events, making existing ones worse or even steering hurricanes.
Kinda cool doomsday device when you start to weaponize the planet itself. There was another one on using nukes on subduction zones in an effort to release an earthquake and create tsunami's but I forget its name.
A little scary to think that a nation might be able to attack another blamelessly.
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You mean like Covid?
Am I the only one that has noticed China has almost no deaths from Covid?
Am I the only one that has noticed China has almost no deaths from Covid?
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Re: The Doomsday devices and M.A.D.
Maybe it's because they don't count almost every death as being covid-related (Including a motorcycle accident victim here in Florida until people complained, as you may recall.)
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Eh, a couple of factors. One, China took it extremely seriously and implemented draconian control measures. Two, China is absolutely going to tell the 100% pure Gospel truth...and I got a bridge in Cleveland to sell. The Bob Hope Memorial Bridge, with the Guardians on it. PayPal or Venmo.
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The data for China is complete nonsense
But if it wasn’t, and they really have had zero deaths since early 2020
Then my point stands
But if it wasn’t, and they really have had zero deaths since early 2020
Then my point stands
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A lot of smart people have written about the next war being biological
It sure won’t be nuclear
It sure won’t be nuclear
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BBC TRANSCRIPT TO BE USED IN WAKE OF NUCLEAR ATTACK
This is the Wartime Broadcasting Service.
This country has been attacked with nuclear weapons. Communications have been severely disrupted, and the number of casualties and the extent of the damage are not yet known. We shall bring you further information as soon as possible. Meanwhile, stay tuned to this wavelength, stay calm and stay in your own homes. Remember there is nothing to be gained by trying to get away. By leaving your homes you could be exposing yourselves to greater danger.
If you leave, you may find yourself without food, without water, without accommodation and without protection.
Radioactive fall-out, which follows a nuclear explosion, is many times more dangerous if you are directly exposed to it in the open. Roofs and walls offer substantial protection. The safest place is indoors.
Make sure gas and other fuel supplies are turned off and that all fires are extinguished. If mains water is available, this can be used for fire-fighting.
You should also refill all your containers for drinking water after the fires have been put out, because the mains water supply may not be available for very long.
Water must not be used for flushing lavatories: until you are told that lavatories may be used again, other toilet arrangements must be made. Use your water only for essential drinking and cooking purposes. Water means life. Don't waste it.
Make your food stocks last: ration your supply, because it may have to last for 14 days or more. If you have fresh food in the house, use this first to avoid wasting it: food in tins will keep.
If you live in an area where a fall-out warning has been given, stay in your fall-out room until you are told it is safe to come out. When the immediate danger has passed the sirens will sound a steady note. The "all clear" message will also be given on this wavelength. If you leave the fall out room to go to the lavatory or replenish food or water supplies, do not remain outside the room gor a minute longer than is necessary. Do not, in any circumstances, go outside the house. Radioactive fall-out can kill. You cannot see it or feel it, but it is there. If you go outside, you will bring danger to your family and you may die. Stay in your fall-out room until you are told it is safe to come out or you hear the "all clear" on the sirens.
Here are the main points again:
Stay in your own homes, and if you live in an area where a fall-out warning has been given stay in your fall-out room, until you are told it is safe to come out. The message that the immediate danger has passed will be given by the
sirens and repeated on this wavelength. Make sure that the gas and all fuel supplies are turned off and that all fires are extinguished.
Water must be rationed, and used only for essential drinking and cooking purposes. It must not be used for flushing lavatories.
Ration your food supply: It may have to last for 14 days or more.
We shall repeat this broadcast in two hours' time. Stay tuned to this wavelength, but switch your radios off now to save your batteries until we come on the air again.
That is the end of this broadcast.
This is the Wartime Broadcasting Service.
This country has been attacked with nuclear weapons. Communications have been severely disrupted, and the number of casualties and the extent of the damage are not yet known. We shall bring you further information as soon as possible. Meanwhile, stay tuned to this wavelength, stay calm and stay in your own homes. Remember there is nothing to be gained by trying to get away. By leaving your homes you could be exposing yourselves to greater danger.
If you leave, you may find yourself without food, without water, without accommodation and without protection.
Radioactive fall-out, which follows a nuclear explosion, is many times more dangerous if you are directly exposed to it in the open. Roofs and walls offer substantial protection. The safest place is indoors.
Make sure gas and other fuel supplies are turned off and that all fires are extinguished. If mains water is available, this can be used for fire-fighting.
You should also refill all your containers for drinking water after the fires have been put out, because the mains water supply may not be available for very long.
Water must not be used for flushing lavatories: until you are told that lavatories may be used again, other toilet arrangements must be made. Use your water only for essential drinking and cooking purposes. Water means life. Don't waste it.
Make your food stocks last: ration your supply, because it may have to last for 14 days or more. If you have fresh food in the house, use this first to avoid wasting it: food in tins will keep.
If you live in an area where a fall-out warning has been given, stay in your fall-out room until you are told it is safe to come out. When the immediate danger has passed the sirens will sound a steady note. The "all clear" message will also be given on this wavelength. If you leave the fall out room to go to the lavatory or replenish food or water supplies, do not remain outside the room gor a minute longer than is necessary. Do not, in any circumstances, go outside the house. Radioactive fall-out can kill. You cannot see it or feel it, but it is there. If you go outside, you will bring danger to your family and you may die. Stay in your fall-out room until you are told it is safe to come out or you hear the "all clear" on the sirens.
Here are the main points again:
Stay in your own homes, and if you live in an area where a fall-out warning has been given stay in your fall-out room, until you are told it is safe to come out. The message that the immediate danger has passed will be given by the
sirens and repeated on this wavelength. Make sure that the gas and all fuel supplies are turned off and that all fires are extinguished.
Water must be rationed, and used only for essential drinking and cooking purposes. It must not be used for flushing lavatories.
Ration your food supply: It may have to last for 14 days or more.
We shall repeat this broadcast in two hours' time. Stay tuned to this wavelength, but switch your radios off now to save your batteries until we come on the air again.
That is the end of this broadcast.
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Re: The Doomsday devices and M.A.D.
"Well sir, I'd say that something was ... definitely wrong ... somewhere."
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I would not say that . . . until all the facts are in.
– J "Fluids" D.
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https://xkcd.com/2568/
No really, me bros wife works in X-ray titties and this scares the fuck outa him.
Also https://unitednuclear.com/index.php?mai ... cPath=2_12
No really, me bros wife works in X-ray titties and this scares the fuck outa him.
Also https://unitednuclear.com/index.php?mai ... cPath=2_12
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All crises close in one of three ways.
(i) Normal science proves able to handle the crisis-provoking problem and all returns to "normal."
(ii) The problem resists and is labelled, but it is perceived as resulting from the field's failure to possess the necessary tools with which to solve it, and so scientists set it aside for a future generation with more developed tools.
iii) A new candidate for paradigm emerges, and a battle over its acceptance ensues.
Once it has achieved the status of paradigm, a paradigm is declared invalid only if an alternate candidate is available to take its place.
Because there is no such thing as research in the absence of a paradigm, to reject one paradigm without simultaneously substituting another is to reject science itself.
To declare a paradigm invalid will require more than the falsification of the paradigm by direct comparison with nature. The judgement leading to this decision involves the comparison of the existing paradigm with nature and with the alternate candidate. Transition from a paradigm in crisis to a new one from which a new tradition of normal science can emerge is not a cumulative process. It is a reconstruction of the field from new fundamentals. This reconstruction changes some of the field's foundational theoretical generalizations. It changes methods and applications. It alters the rules.
https://www.uky.edu/~eushe2/Pajares/kuhnsyn.html
(i) Normal science proves able to handle the crisis-provoking problem and all returns to "normal."
(ii) The problem resists and is labelled, but it is perceived as resulting from the field's failure to possess the necessary tools with which to solve it, and so scientists set it aside for a future generation with more developed tools.
iii) A new candidate for paradigm emerges, and a battle over its acceptance ensues.
Once it has achieved the status of paradigm, a paradigm is declared invalid only if an alternate candidate is available to take its place.
Because there is no such thing as research in the absence of a paradigm, to reject one paradigm without simultaneously substituting another is to reject science itself.
To declare a paradigm invalid will require more than the falsification of the paradigm by direct comparison with nature. The judgement leading to this decision involves the comparison of the existing paradigm with nature and with the alternate candidate. Transition from a paradigm in crisis to a new one from which a new tradition of normal science can emerge is not a cumulative process. It is a reconstruction of the field from new fundamentals. This reconstruction changes some of the field's foundational theoretical generalizations. It changes methods and applications. It alters the rules.
https://www.uky.edu/~eushe2/Pajares/kuhnsyn.html
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Instead of attempting to digest that link, I'll take your word for it.
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You are either a terrible skeptic, or very wise.Tommy Palven wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:52 pm Instead of attempting to digest that link, I'll take your word for it.
:D
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A highly recommended read from the 60s - "The Satan Bug." Alistair McLean (The Guns of Navarone, Where Eagles Dare . . .).
Avoid the movie of The Satan Bug like the pl . . . . just avoid it. Every McLean movie adaptation except for The Guns of Navarone and Where Eagles Dare has sucked, sucked, sucked. Those are the only 2 worth finding/watching.
But anyway, that was the premise that started the book.
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I, of course, prefer the Japanese Original:
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– J.D.
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I will read it then.Ben Trovado wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:39 amA highly recommended read from the 60s - "The Satan Bug." Alistair McLean (The Guns of Navarone, Where Eagles Dare . . .).
Avoid the movie of The Satan Bug like the pl . . . . just avoid it. Every McLean movie adaptation except for The Guns of Navarone and Where Eagles Dare has sucked, sucked, sucked. Those are the only 2 worth finding/watching.
But anyway, that was the premise that started the book.
Have you read Herbert's The White Plague?
Considering Covid, it just gets better with age.
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Spoiler alert. If you haven't read Herbert's The White Plague, but plan on doing so, don't read the following.
If you haven't read it, but are reading the huge spoiler, I highly suggest you get a copy. It's better than Dune.
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However, if you are at all sensitive, don't read it. It can give you nightmares, and it is truly one of the most terrifying stories ever told.
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