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Yes indeedy

https://i.imgur.com/e4M06x6.jpg

Nickel plated, gold (!) highlights!!!! Wowie zowie.

A classic shooter that anyone would be proud to own and you wouldn't give a shit if it got damaged.

All in all, a perfect acquisition.
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Want!!!
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What's stopping you?
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Auction. 10/29
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Grammatron wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:17 pm What's stopping you?
Money, common sense, my wife
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ed wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:14 pmWant!!!
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I bought a plated luger ages ago when I was in CT for $600. I sold the thing to a bud a couple of years ago. Regretted it.

Thing is that any luger in reasonable shape is collectable and has a story to tell. These things not so much so shooting them can be done without guilt.
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I like it. I wouldn't bring it out at night.
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ed wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:57 pm I bought a plated luger ages ago when I was in CT for $600. I sold the thing to a bud a couple of years ago. Regretted it.

Thing is that any luger in reasonable shape is collectable and has a story to tell. These things not so much so shooting them can be done without guilt.
I know you are a collector of many thing ed, and as such I would like to get your take on something. A pet peeve of mine are people buying antique/collectible/unique/special items only to lock them away in a box and never use them as intended. Of course I completely understand the underlying desire to feel responsibility as a custodian of the the said item. But most of them still have plenty of "story to tell" and should not be in a mausoleum.

What do you think?
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Grammatron wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:17 pm
ed wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:57 pm I bought a plated luger ages ago when I was in CT for $600. I sold the thing to a bud a couple of years ago. Regretted it.

Thing is that any luger in reasonable shape is collectable and has a story to tell. These things not so much so shooting them can be done without guilt.
I know you are a collector of many thing ed, and as such I would like to get your take on something. A pet peeve of mine are people buying antique/collectible/unique/special items only to lock them away in a box and never use them as intended. Of course I completely understand the underlying desire to feel responsibility as a custodian of the the said item. But most of them still have plenty of "story to tell" and should not be in a mausoleum.

What do you think?
Well, it depends. There are some firearms, for example, that used ammunition that was significantly underpowered versus what is available today. Unless you would reload to those old specs it would be best not to risk damage by using modern stuff.

If I want to shoot some old thing I might pull the bullet of a modern cartridge and make a blank. Here, for example, is 4 shot Bar Pistol which is sorta rare, shooting a .25acp blank made by moi. I can check the function, get photos etc without (much) risk of damage.
https://i.imgur.com/Fm2JkTi.jpg

I had a couple of really fine pieces that should have been in a museum. When time came to sell them I contacted the met first, they are there now. Yeah, a collector probably would have paid more but these were special things and should be viewed by the great unwashed. And I think that if something is really worthwhile it will, eventually, be acquired. The curator at the met knew exactly what I had. Knew when I got the stuff. They are spiders, waiting and watching. BTW, that is why they were nice to me and my kid who was in art school. Paid off.

Another issue is what is NOT on display. The Met has, I believe, only about 5% of the stuff they own on display. (I was fortunate to have visted their storage on a couple of occasions. Damn.) Some of the hidden stuff is very good, some ok. Should they deacquisition the lesser pieces? Part of me says yes. Such a move would increase interest in the area. By killing the collector market interest among the public wanes. And that yields decreased revenues.

As far as private collectors go... the met won't take loans (usually) since collectors have used such a display to hypo the price of the displayed piece. I made it point to get friends to actually handle the stuff I own. Remember the famous party on the north shore of LI, was it Rutherford Stuyvesant? Don't recall but he had a big party and someone made off with a pair of unique spurs. The Prince of Wales was in attendance and Stuyvesant let the matter drop without calling the coppers so as to not embarrass the Prince.

Fucker did not do HIS job of keeping the things safe. Job #1 of the collector is to ensure that the objects are safely kept for the next generation.

This is all over the lot and I apologise.

To summarize the mess... I think that collectors must pass on their stuff in at least as good condition as they received it. I think that they should take steps to expose their stuff to at least friends and family. And if a piece is really worthwhile, to get it into a museum if they can take the value hit on their estate.

That sorta answer the question?
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ed wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:44 am
This is all over the lot and I apologise.

To summarize the mess... I think that collectors must pass on their stuff in at least as good condition as they received it. I think that they should take steps to expose their stuff to at least friends and family. And if a piece is really worthwhile, to get it into a museum if they can take the value hit on their estate.

That sorta answer the question?
You have more than answered my question. Your posts actually changed my perspective a bit as I have not considered a tier of collectibles that hold truly exception items that belong in museums for posterity.
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The core of a number of departmemt at the met and other museums come from the collections of inspired collectors.

Ask one of our resident limeys about the Wallace. Here the cloisters in NY is a wonderful example.
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The one piece I sold to them was part of the collection of the Viscounts Boyne and was in their collection in Brancepeth Castle in Durham. Thing was bought by the nephew (?) of Lord Tennyson who was a friend of the family. Anyhoo, it was sold and was owned by Stephen Gransky who was curator at the met and it was exhibited there for 10 years. It went thru some more peregrinations and came to me.

https://i.imgur.com/2N0gGTl.jpg
Point is that it is back at the met, probably permanently.
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ed wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:03 am The core of a number of departmemt at the met and other museums come from the collections of inspired collectors.

Ask one of our resident limeys about the Wallace. Here the cloisters in NY is a wonderful example.
I deal in collectibles for a living, albeit a very niche collectible of animation art. What exists from drawing, cels, and painting that studios used to make those films, was saved by employees or from people raiding studio dumpsters. The studios themselves destroyed most of their art as nuisance and fire hazard. It certainly isn't the kind of historic collectibles you deal with, but being in this business gives me some insight into the kind of collector you are talking about. The mentality of a serious collector is fascinating.
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Grammatron wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:55 amI deal in collectibles for a living, albeit a very niche collectible of animation art.
Pervert!

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Grammatron wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:55 am
ed wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:03 am The core of a number of departmemt at the met and other museums come from the collections of inspired collectors.

Ask one of our resident limeys about the Wallace. Here the cloisters in NY is a wonderful example.
I deal in collectibles for a living, albeit a very niche collectible of animation art. What exists from drawing, cels, and painting that studios used to make those films, was saved by employees or from people raiding studio dumpsters. The studios themselves destroyed most of their art as nuisance and fire hazard. It certainly isn't the kind of historic collectibles you deal with, but being in this business gives me some insight into the kind of collector you are talking about. The mentality of a serious collector is fascinating.
Don't minimize it. A Thimble Theater cel (or whatever they used back then) is every bit as old as most of the old firearms I own and, arguably, more significant. And probably more fun.

You know Rockwell was pooh-poohed because he was an "illustrator" yet the guy could do stuff that spoke to you.
I got this ages ago in Chi

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(not mine, I don't seem to have a picture of my copy)
Rockwell had a daunting talent.
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https://i.imgur.com/Ns1GobZ.jpg
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Kinda thing someone with your t-shirt would bid on.
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ed wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:09 am https://i.imgur.com/Ns1GobZ.jpg
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Bid more
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Hotarubi wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:45 pm Kinda thing someone with your t-shirt would bid on.
Exactly, you see my point!!!!
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Grammatron wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:49 pm
ed wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:09 am https://i.imgur.com/Ns1GobZ.jpg
:x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
Bid more
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Maybe
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stupid luger
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It's a dandy!
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It's a huckleberry!!

Look at this ... completely mismatched

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a frankenluger
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You're giving up the quest? What about all the fun times you were going to have shooting it?
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Quitting.

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I won it. Paid too much (maybe) but it is, after all, a true Pimp Luger and may have belonged to Hinrich Himmler (I have the latter on good authority).

I will probably have it next week and I will give a full report perhaps even with a brief video of me firing it.
WWI era Luger, German military toggle locked recoil operated semi-automatic pistol chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum, manufactured circa 1917. Has been polished & refinished in nickel, with gold color accents on controls & grip screws, showing some loss of sharp edges from aggressive buffing. Features 4" barrel, dovetailed inverted 'V' front sight, Navy type rear sight, smooth crescent trigger, knurled charging knobs on the rear toggle link, manual safety of the left side of the frame, knurled push button magazine release, lanyard bar, checkered black plastic grips. All observed numbers are mismatched on this parts gun. Retains stock lug on frame. Bore is very good. Finish is very good condition with little discoloration, no observed peeling or flaking. Grips are very good. Magazine appears to be earlier manufacture, unmarked, with wood plug (chip missing from left side of plug). Condition is NRA Very Good (refinished - non matching) *** C&R Firearm ***
doc, n.b.:
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Bully for you ed. USA! etc.
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Well, Germany actually but we won so there is that.
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ed wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:01 am I won it. Paid too much (maybe) but it is, after all, a true Pimp Luger and may have belonged to Hinrich Himmler (I have the latter on good authority).
That's nothing. I've got one of Jesus's Phalanges.
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I thought those only came sets of twelve.

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Really? I got mine from the sacred appendage compendium party pack.
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As you can see from this unretouched photo, here is Himmler with the selfsame pistol tucked in his belt.

PROOF!!!!!

https://i.imgur.com/pTIukws.jpg
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Looks like he's pleased to see you ed. Might be the shirt.
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He always looks constipated.

It's the cabbage
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ed wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:01 am I won it. Paid too much (maybe)...
I find that with things like this at auction, it's not a matter of paying too much for it but try and find it later.
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That is a fact for sure
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Too bad Himmler didn't shoot himself in the mouth with it ca. 1939.
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Might have gotten someone worse. Unintended consequences are a bitch.
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