UAP and SCIENCE!

Doctor X · Post by **Doctor X** » Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:48 pm

Oh and I bet you would complain about the expense of a bike chain when America needed saving from Corn Pop!

– J.D.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:38 pm

Yeah, targeting the balloon would have been a better plan. Now it's just lost from investigations.

What a coincidence.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:38 pm

Can't say if it was a spy craft, or a weather craft now.

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:50 pm

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:01 am

"We can't shoot it down over Montana"

Dud, have you ever been to Montana?

"We have to wait until all the crash wreckage ends up in the ocean"

The ocean is more populated than Montana

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:06 am

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:17 am

OK Doctor X

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:06 pm

https://i.imgur.com/9yEdH8Z.jpg

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:33 pm

Breaking news.

Once again, more fodder for condemning Trump, yet he's still free.

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:02 pm

Read my sig.

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:56 pm

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 7:06 am

Bruce wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:33 pm

Breaking news.

Once again, more fodder for condemning Trump, yet he's still free.

It's fake news.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 7:12 am

One thing that the balloon made clear, in regards to UAPs

The stills and videos of the balloon are numerous. Including video of it being shot down. 40,000 feet in altitude, or 60,000 feet altitude.

So either the military has really bad cameras, or there is some complex bullshit going on involving UAPs reported by the military.

TicTac UAPs at 20,000 feet, for hours, and not a single clear still or video of them. Quite unbelievable.

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:44 am

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64548140.amp

Interesting. The balloon was 200ft tall and designed to operate between 85k and 120k feet. If I remember correctly, at 100k ft, you are effectively in outer space.

I'm wondering if the expect to find anything incriminating. If the Chinese intend to spy, it seems like satellites would be easier to control and maintain, both for weather monitoring and spying. Plus, those pesky F22s and their sidewinders can't reach a satellite.

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:38 am

Some Internet key opinion leaders think that China's spy satellites basically suck. If they don't, then China wouldn't be using balloons.

I dunno.

ceptimus · Post by **ceptimus** » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:43 pm

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:36 pm

I read the Chinese are demanding the wreckage, as it is their property.

Clown world, where it's all just smoke and mirrors, and balloons and ice cream

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:20 pm

Someone better get it before the scrappers nab it.

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:36 pm

The U. S. of A. Air Force has shot down My Mother the Car near Alaska.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64605447

Anaxagoras · Post by **Anaxagoras** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:26 am

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:18 am

Twit: https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1624167737781018636

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:01 am

Nobody ever expected WWII was going to be us against the aliens

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:55 pm

robinson wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:01 am Nobody ever expected WWII was going to be us against the aliens

https://i.imgur.com/iWlzpA4.jpg

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:45 pm

https://www.duffelblog.com/p/china-spy- ... -week-from

China: Spy balloon was one week from retirement
It was getting too old for this shit.

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:42 pm

https://i.imgur.com/p4pRPyy.jpg

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:39 pm

Twit: https://twitter.com/MickWest/status/1624805009673326593

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:10 pm

Matt Wallace
@MattFnWallace
Just so you know if the spy balloons are harbingers of an alien invasion I will be selling out all of you as a species immediately. So no hard feelings when I hunt you down for our new overlords. Or feel hard about it. I don’t care. You’re meat and I get dibs on your stuff.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:11 pm

If aliens want to observe and mess with humans, just use balloons. Nobody will ever suspect it's aliens.

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:27 pm

Twit: https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1621310952489590785

Can't blame them.

https://www.npr.org/sections/npr-histor ... loon-bombs

Papa Lazarou · Post by **Papa Lazarou** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:05 pm

This is just a saga now.

ceptimus · Post by **ceptimus** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:58 pm

China can continue to send hundreds of weather balloons over, costing about a thousand dollars each, and laugh at the USA using a missile costing five hundred times as much, to shoot each one down.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:58 pm

ceptimus wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:58 pm China can continue to send hundreds of weather balloons over, costing about a thousand dollars each, and laugh at the USA using a missile costing five hundred times as much, to shoot each one down.

Or they could send tens of thousands of balloons, each equipped with a small fire starting bomb.

Pyrrho · Post by **Pyrrho** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:05 am

https://www.imo.net/imminent-asteroid-e ... e-channel/

A freshly discovered asteroid, Sar2667 is to enter the Earth atmosphere on February 13, ~02h 59min UT over the Channel. Its small dimensions (around 1 m) means it will be the source of a bright fireball, and potential meteorites fall.

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:41 am

Another one bites the dust over Lake Huron.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-off ... 023-02-12/

"We're calling them objects, not balloons, for a reason," VanHerck, head of North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) and Northern Command, said.

VanHerck said he would not rule out aliens or any other explanation.

"I'll let the intel community and the counterintelligence community figure that out," he said."

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:05 am

Bruce wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:41 am https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-off ... 023-02-12/

"We're calling them objects, not balloons, for a reason," VanHerck, head of North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) and Northern Command, said.

VanHerck said he would not rule out aliens or any other explanation.

"I'll let the intel community and the counterintelligence community figure that out," he said."

Once again, no video, it didn't happen.

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:06 am

Am I the only one around here who remembers "Pics or get the fuck out"

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:49 pm

robinson wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:58 pm
ceptimus wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:58 pm China can continue to send hundreds of weather balloons over, costing about a thousand dollars each, and laugh at the USA using a missile costing five hundred times as much, to shoot each one down.
Or they could send tens of thousands of balloons, each equipped with a small fire starting bomb.

I'm pretty sure nobody got my reference there.

The balloons not only required engineering acumen, but a massive logistical effort. Schoolgirls were conscripted to labor in factories manufacturing the balloons, which were made of endless reams of paper and held together by a paste made of konnyaku, a potato-like vegetable. The girls worked long, exhausting shifts, their contributions to this wartime project shrouded in silence. The massive balloons would then be launched, timed carefully to optimize the wind currents of the jet stream and reach the United States. Engineers hoped that the weapons’ impact would be compounded by forest fires, inflicting terror through both the initial explosion and an ensuing conflagration. That goal was stymied in part by the fact that they arrived during the rainy season, but had this goal been realized, these balloons may have been much more than an overlooked episode in a vast war.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ ... 180972259/

It's still an extremely dangerous weapon, since now they can know when the fire danger is the highest.

As reports of isolated sightings (and theories on how they got there, ranging from submarines to saboteurs) made their way into a handful of news reports over the Christmas holiday, government officials stepped in to censor stories about the bombs, worrying that fear itself might soon magnify the effect of these new weapons. The reverse principle also applied—while the American public was largely in the dark in the early months of 1945, so were those who were launching these deadly weapons. Japanese officers later told the Associated Press that “they finally decided the weapon was worthless and the whole experiment useless, because they had repeatedly listened to [radio broadcasts] and had heard no further mention of the balloons.” Ironically, the Japanese had ceased launching them shortly before the picnicking children had stumbled across one.

Yes, the fucking Japs thought the effort was worthless, something the current government/media doesn't seem to understand at all. If somebody is attacking you, especially with something new, don't fucking report every last bit of it so the enemy can know what the effect of it is.

Oh wait ...

January 20, 20158:00 AM ET

Those who forget the past are liable to trip over it.

Just a few months ago a couple of forestry workers in Lumby, British Columbia — about 250 miles north of the U.S. border — happened upon a 70-year-old Japanese balloon bomb.

The dastardly contraption was one of thousands of balloon bombs launched toward North America in the 1940s as part of a secret plot by Japanese saboteurs. To date, only a few hundred of the devices have been found — and most are still unaccounted for.

The plan was diabolic. At some point during World War II, scientists in Japan figured out a way to harness a brisk air stream that sweeps eastward across the Pacific Ocean — to dispatch silent and deadly devices to the American mainland.

The project — named Fugo — "called for sending bomb-carrying balloons from Japan to set fire to the vast forests of America, in particular those of the Pacific Northwest. It was hoped that the fires would create havoc, dampen American morale and disrupt the U.S. war effort," James M. Powles describes in a 2003 issue of the journal World War II. The balloons, or "envelopes", designed by the Japanese army were made of lightweight paper fashioned from the bark of trees. Attached were bombs composed of sensors, powder-packed tubes, triggering devices and other simple and complex mechanisms.

https://www.npr.org/sections/npr-histor ... loon-bombs

robinson · Post by **robinson** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:52 pm

Hey North Korea! Guess how easy it is to terrorize the United States? That's right, just launch fucking balloons. Thousands of cheap balloons. Burn the country to the ground.

Oh, and if the US starts shooting them down, that will bankrupt the country as well. Because each rocket cost over half a million dollars! And each mission is like 10 million dollars!

Because after all these years, nobody has figured out how to put a fucking hole in a balloon, while it's still over the water.

(hint: ever hear of a shotgun?)

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Wed Feb 15, 2023 3:09 am

How about we ask the experts on weather balloons....

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science ... -rcna70403

Kevin Tucker, president of the Oregon-based aerospace company Near Space Corporation, said high-altitude balloons used for science are typically well tracked and follow strict Federal Aviation Administration protocols.

Tucker’s company has spent more than two decades carrying out high-altitude balloon missions for NASA, the European Space Agency and commercial partners. He said there’s “almost zero chance” of such a balloon getting lost or drifting so far off course as to cause a national security incident.

What do you have to say to that, Mr. Shady guy in shades with the flashy stick? :P

Anaxagoras · Post by **Anaxagoras** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:52 pm

Biden says objects shot down over North America last week appear to not be part of China’s spy balloon operation

WHat a shocker.

President Joe Biden on Thursday said that the United States has no indication that the three objects shot down in North American air space are tied to China’s spy balloon program and are likely from private entities.

“We don’t yet know exactly what these three objects were but nothing right now suggests they were related to China’s spy balloon program or that they were surveillance vehicles from any other country,” Biden said in his first formal remarks on the objects shot from the sky last weekend over Canada and the US. “The intelligence community’s current assessment is that these three objects were most likely balloons tied to private companies, recreation or research institutions studying weather or conducting other scientific research.”

Biden’s White House speech to address the matter four days after the last known object was shot down comes after the president faced increasing pressure in Washington to be more transparent about the situation and his decision making as commander-in-chief.

Biden emphasized that there hasn’t been evidence to suggest “a sudden increase in the number of objects in the sky.” And although the most recent three objects appear to have been benign, Biden warned, “If any object presents a threat to the safety and security of the American people, I will take it down.”

The president said he has directed his team to devise “sharper rules for how we will deal with these unidentified objects moving forward, distinguishing between those that are likely to pose safety and security risks that necessitate action and those that do not.” Those classified parameters will be shared with Congress when they are finished.

The president also said he’s directing national security adviser Jake Sullivan to lead a “government-wide effort” for how to address future encounters with similar high-altitude objects.

Top men are on it. Top men.