2006 Poker Challenge discussion and trash talking thread

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2006 Poker Challenge discussion and trash talking thread

Post by RCC »

I didn't say anything both not to jam up the first hand and no big deal...

There was a raise to 200, which is a raise of 150.

Then a re-raise to 300, which is a raise of 100.

All raises must be at least the amount of the big blind or any previous action (bet or raise), whichever is smaller.

Legally, Ny's reraise would have to be 150, or "to 350." A 50 chip difference is no big deal though... After the flop comes out it's over and done and in the archives...
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Post by swellman »

I missed this. Blame it on a green dealer.

Will try to be more diligent as we proceed.
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Re: 2006 Poker Challenge discussion and trash talking thread

Post by Nyarlathotep »

RCC wrote:I didn't say anything both not to jam up the first hand and no big deal...

There was a raise to 200, which is a raise of 150.

Then a re-raise to 300, which is a raise of 100.

All raises must be at least the amount of the big blind or any previous action (bet or raise), whichever is smaller.

Legally, Ny's reraise would have to be 150, or "to 350." A 50 chip difference is no big deal though... After the flop comes out it's over and done and in the archives...
I missed that particular nuance of the rules. Mea culpa.
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Re: 2006 Poker Challenge discussion and trash talking thread

Post by CHARLEY_BIGTIME »

Nyarlothropetport has broken my concentration.
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2 weeks without internet access

Post by swellman »

Folks,

I am going on the road 15 Feb - 1 Mar.

I was planning on bringing a laptop with me, but just learned that I will not have reliable access to the internet on this particular trip due to reasons beyond my control.

Please be patient during this time. I will make every effort to check in and keep things moving, but no guarantees.

This should be my only loss of connectivity in 2006.

If people prefer, we can do one of the following:

- take a 2 week hiatus
- name a substitute dealer (likely just one hand)


The alternative is to just suffer through my slow dealing over the next two weeks.

Let me know. Any volunteers for a substitute dealer?

Sorry to cause problems so early in the tournament! :AwShucksBlush:
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Post by Bearguin »

I don't suppose a player can volunteer to deal ;)


I say we just do the best you can and we be patient. I also say it's your call and if it is going to cause you to stress while on the road (I hope it's a vacation) then call a hiatus.

In other words, I'm easy. Cheap too. Anyone want ot buy me a drink?
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Post by RCC »

Quite alright for the dealer to call a break.

What you could so is suspend the 24 hour rule for this time and just update when you can.

Or... just leave it for two weeks. I had a few long weekends last year (in fact I'm gone March 1-6 for ATLARGE again this year)
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Post by Nyarlathotep »

I vote we just play the hands as swellman is available, rather than take a break, and suspend the 24 hour rule as per RCCs suggestion.
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Post by swellman »

I don't mind trying to keep it going.

Let's suspend the 24 hour rule until I return on the 1st of March. I'll continue to check in as time allows.

Will keep my eye on the current hand until noon tomorrow, after that it may be a few days until you hear from me.

Thanks to all for your patience. After this hiatus, it'll be a well oiled machine. You'll see. Hell, we might even get it down to 5 days per hand!
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Post by Nyarlathotep »

Woo Hoo.

First hand to the newbie!
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Post by bjornart »

Nyarlathotep wrote:Woo Hoo.

First hand to the newbie!
You had me fooled with your wussy betting. :D
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Post by Bearguin »

Anyone know what happened to the asswide named Shemp?
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Post by gnome »

I vote we continue as best as we can... but I furthermore vote that we do NOT suspend the 24-hour rule for players--only the dealer. The reason being, with swellman's access being sporadic, we'd ideally like to have as much done as possible without him, so that he's more likely to be able to move the game along when he signs on.
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Post by Nyarlathotep »

Bearguin wrote:Anyone know what happened to the asswide named Shemp?
He died in 1955, why?
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Post by swellman »

Just checking in. Finding public access to the net was easier than I had expected. I just won't be able to do it every day.

Waiting on Shemp. I did relax the 24 hour rule before I left town, so I cannot in good conscience sit him out.

Has anyone heard from statisticool? He is still sitting out from the first deal and will remain so until heard from again.
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Post by Bearguin »

swellman wrote: Has anyone heard from statisticool? He is still sitting out from the first deal and will remain so until heard from again.
I don't know but we can check to see if he's arguing with Clause at SS.
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Post by Nyarlathotep »

Bearguin wrote:
swellman wrote: Has anyone heard from statisticool? He is still sitting out from the first deal and will remain so until heard from again.
I don't know but we can check to see if he's arguing with Clause at SS.
He posted at JREF yesterday.
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Post by Bearguin »

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Bearguin wrote:
swellman wrote: Has anyone heard from statisticool? He is still sitting out from the first deal and will remain so until heard from again.
I don't know but we can check to see if he's arguing with Clause at SS.
He posted at JREF yesterday.
Ah.

Yes.

But I couldn't know that as I'm not welcome there.
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Post by Bearguin »

So, Shemp.

What did you have?
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Post by gnome »

Ohhh he was sooo buying the pot. I quit cause his bluff was probably better than my hand.
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Post by swellman »

Back on the net. Kind of weird being cut off from computers. I think I need to get a life...

Anyway, a green dealer question for the group before it becomes an issue:

When a "sitting out" player rejoins a game, what does he owe in blinds?

In my very limited experience with on-line non-tournament games, a returning player cannot rejoin until the button passes him (if it's just to his right), and on the first hand he often has to put up a big blind bet regardless of the button's position.

As I understand it in tournament play, the blinds are plucked out a sitting player's stack until he returns. When he does return, the player just continues playing as if he had always been sitting there.

Is this last paragraph consistent with everyone's understanding?
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Post by Bearguin »

swellman wrote: As I understand it in tournament play, the blinds are plucked out a sitting player's stack until he returns. When he does return, the player just continues playing as if he had always been sitting there.

Is this last paragraph consistent with everyone's understanding?
That's my understanding and what I would expect if I had to sit out.
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Post by shemp »

Bearguin wrote:So, Shemp.

What did you have?
Your mama.
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Post by shemp »

gnome wrote:Ohhh he was sooo buying the pot. I quit cause his bluff was probably better than my hand.
Your hand is only good for one thing, jerkoff.
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Post by swellman »

statisticool has dropped out. What do folks want to do?

Suggest that his slot and stack be removed. We could divide his stack among the remaining 11 players, but the math sucks and it's really kind of pointless.

Unless I hear a lot of nays, I'll drop statisticool from the list after this hand.
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Post by slimshady2357 »

gnome, you can't "check", you have to call, raise or fold.

One can only "check" if it comes to your turn and there was no bet before you that round. The small and big blinds are bets, forced bets. You have to match the bet and pay 50 here (or whatever the big blind is at the time) to stay in the hand.

To stay in the hand at this point and not raise, you would "call" the bet before you.

To recap:

If no one bets before you in a round, you can check or bet (technically you can fold, but these isn't any reason to).

If someone bets before you in a round, you can call, bet (raise) or fold.
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Post by gnome »

Schooled. Thanks.
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Post by Bearguin »

What I miss?

What I miss?

Damn
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Post by Bearguin »

Does Anyone mind if I take a turn as Chaley has not bet yet?

Swellman?

I'll PM you.
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Post by swellman »

Bearguin, I sent you a PM.

V.2 already got folded this hand by the 24 hour rule. Doesn't seem fair to boot him, but let another player back in.

But I am open to discussion on the matter - this ain't the WSOP. What does everyone think?
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Post by gnome »

Nothing against Bearguin, but I think we need to stick to the rules, in light of Swellman's point about V.2...
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Post by Nyarlathotep »

I agree with gnome. If no one else had gotten dinked by the 24 hour rule this round, I'd say let the bear play; but since someone has, it would be unfair to change it.
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Post by CHARLEY_BIGTIME »

Bearguin loses.
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Post by Bearguin »

Yeah yeah.

Bunch of meanines.



:lol:
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Post by CHARLEY_BIGTIME »

Actually. If the dealer doesn't turn up for 24 hours - can we fug him off out of it as well?
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Post by Nyarlathotep »

By the way. Please help a newbie out here and tell me if I understand this correctly.

If one wants to place a bet equivalent to whatever the current bet is but not raise; one calls if the person before you made a bet and check if they folded. Correct?
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Post by Nyarlathotep »

CHARLEY_BIGTIME wrote:Actually. If the dealer doesn't turn up for 24 hours - can we fug him off out of it as well?
We COULD but then there would be no game.
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Post by CHARLEY_BIGTIME »

Nyarlathotep wrote:
CHARLEY_BIGTIME wrote:Actually. If the dealer doesn't turn up for 24 hours - can we fug him off out of it as well?
We COULD but then there would be no game.
Good point.

I got a bit power crazy there.
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Post by swellman »

Nyarlathotep wrote:By the way. Please help a newbie out here and tell me if I understand this correctly.

If one wants to place a bet equivalent to whatever the current bet is but not raise; one calls if the person before you made a bet and check if they folded. Correct?
Yes, but you may also check if all the players before you have checked.

It's easier at a real table, cause you see the bets in front of you. In this format, it's harder to see what's being bet.

Just remember the blinds are opening bets - i.e. it is impossible to check on the opening round. The big blind has made a bet before a single card is dealt. Check is not an option until after the flop (except for the guy who made the original big blind - he has a chance to increase his bet or check if it has not been raised).




[Edited to correct already confusing explanation.]
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Post by Bearguin »

You can check if there is no bet to you. If there is a bet to you, you would need to call.